Sermons tagged with Trust

Well, good morning. My name is Nate. I get to be one of the pastors here. Gibby, I got to hand it to you. It takes a real man to bracket himself with people with better voices than him week after week. I thought Holly and Dave sounded great this morning. Fun fact about David, I'm pretty sure that this is true. If it's not, Katie, please don't publicly correct me. But I'm pretty sure that they met at a bar or a restaurant where David was singing karaoke to Backstreet Boys. And she said, I need to know about that guy. That's true, right? I can't believe that's true. I love that story so much. And I just think that every time he's up here singing, you should know that that voice got him a family. OK, That's pretty great. That's pretty great. This morning, we are starting a new series called Frequently Asked Questions. We thought it would be good and hopefully helpful to take some time here following Easter as we kind of finish up spring, move into the summer to answer questions that Christians often ask, but sometimes are too afraid to ask them like in a small group setting or ask somebody that they know because sometimes there's things that we feel like we should know and we don't and we don't want to admit that we don't. So we just kind of go along with it and pretend like we know things when we really don't know things. And so part of what we want to do is stop and answer those questions so you don't have to ask them out loud. We want you to keep your dignity, and we're just going to help you along the best we can. To get these questions, we did poll our small groups and ask our small groups to respond and give us your questions back. I think we had about 33% participation on that. So the ones who helped, thank you. The ones who didn't, thanks for nothing. I hope you hate this series because you could have fixed it. So then we got all the responses back and we kind of grouped them together, the staff and I did, and put them up on the whiteboard and we saw, okay, where are the redundancies? What are we seeing a lot of interest in? And we tried to talk about the things that came up the most. Now, I will tell you up front, we're not touching on any hard topics. Some of you guys snuck some questions in there about revelation or culture or whatever, like, hey, let's see if Nate will do this one. No, I will not do that one. But if those questions are so burning to you that you really do want to know, I would love to get coffee or lunch with you or let you come to my office and let's chat about it. So if you have a question that is serious to you and you really do want to discuss it, I would love to discuss it. I love discussing things way more than I love actually working. So if you want to take up some time in the afternoon and I call that work and I get to talk, this is fantastic. Okay, so if there's something you want to talk about, I want to talk about it with you if it doesn't get addressed in this series. And what I'll probably do is put out the schedule for the sermons so you guys will know what we're discussing and when we're discussing it. And then you'll know if there's something that we're not going to discuss that you would like to. This morning's question is kind of an amalgamation of a bunch of different questions that all mean, how can I discern God's will for my life? It's questions like, how do I know when I'm hearing the voice of God versus when I'm just dealing with my own thoughts? How can I know God's will and move in the direction that he's encouraging me to move in with confidence, knowing that it's something that he wants me to do? Essentially, how can I discern God's will for my life? How can I be sure that I'm hearing his voice? This question is a question that comes up a lot. Almost every time I do a sermon or I mention being kingdom builders, we need to build God's kingdom. And that's my goal for everybody who calls grace home is that God would slowly but surely mold you into someone who is passionate about building God's kingdom, who understands that that's why you were placed on this earth to build his kingdom, not your own. But I always get, okay, I want to build God's kingdom. How do I do that? What do I do? And the question that they're asking is, how can I get God's discernment on his will for my life? It's this question. So I think that this question, how can I be sure that I know God's will? How can I hear God's voice? I think it kind of comes up really in two big ways in our life. The first time it comes up is when we first become a Christian or we first begin to take our faith seriously. Because when I say that, what I mean is a lot of us were saved, became a Christian as children, but we didn't really click into that Christianity until adulthood or until high school or until college. And so there's some point in our life at which we began to take our faith seriously or we drifted away from a devout faith and now we're clicking back in. We never lost our faith. We just didn't prioritize it the same way. And now we're clicking back in and it occurs to us, man, God has a will and a plan for my life and I need to know what that is. So how do I hear from God? How do I learn from him? How can I walk with confidence in his direction and in obedience? And so one way that we begin to ask this question of how can I hear God's voice is when we first kind of come online as a Christian and start to realize that God does have a direction and a will for us, and we need to tap into that. So how do we hear it? The other time in life that this question becomes really important is when we are faced with a very difficult decision. Or maybe we even find ourselves languishing in a period of indecision in our life, where we just don't know what to do. Do I take the job or do I stay where I'm at? And what I would say there just real quickly is if that job is going to take you away from grace, God does not want you to take that job. As your pastor, I'm just telling you that. I want to be direct. Do I take the job or do I not? Do I fix this relationship or do I not? Do I have that conversation with someone or do I avoid it? Do I interject myself in this situation or do I stay out? How do I move forward with my child is making this decision. I don't want them to make that decision, but they're a grown up or they're close to it. And I don't know how to be their parent right now, what do I do? And so in a room this size with this many people, I'm certain that there are some of you who may or may not be languishing, but you're certainly existing in a season of indecision. Or you may be facing a big decision, and you're just not sure how to discern God's will for that decision. You're not sure how to hear his voice. And hopefully all of us are in places where we do try to listen to God. We do try to discern his will for the big decisions and the small decisions in our life. So the way I thought about this sermon is if you and I were to down for lunch, and you were to give me one of those two scenarios. I'm newer to the faith. I hear people talking about praying and hearing from God. I don't really know how that works. How do I hear from God? That's one question. Or we sit down for lunch, and you go, I'm facing this decision. I don't know what to do. How can I discern God's will for my life? Okay, that's another question. But I would answer both those questions in the same way. And so this morning is really just practical advice. This is a highly practical sermon. And I hope and pray that it's helpful for you if you're in either of those seasons. And if you're not, I hope it's a good reminder and some things that you'll grab onto that I can give you to think about as you face decisions in the future. So if you were to ask me, hey, how do I know God's will for my life? How can I hear his voice in either this situation or in general? I would say, well, I think it's progressive. I think we have to learn. I think there's a system. And I think the Bible teaches us. The Bible gives us enough information, but I don't have to guess at how we hear from God. The Bible shows us how we hear from God. So the first thing I would say is the very first thing to do when you're facing a decision or when you want to start listening to the voice of God, I think one of the very first things we do is know that we hear from the spiritually mature. We hear God's word and God's voice and God's will from the spiritually mature people that we have in our life. I'll show you where we see this. 2 Kings chapter 4. I'm going to be looking at verses 2 through 4. So this woman, this woman comes up to Elisha. Elisha, and you can just leave that up there, Andrea. I'll get to it in just a second. I false started you on that. I'm sorry. Elisha is one of the great prophets in the Old Testament. Elijah and Elisha are some of the great prophets in the Old Testament. They're underrated and underappreciated because they don't have a book named after them, but they're probably the two greatest prophets that we have. They're incredible and their lives are amazing. And we see their stories in 1 and 2 Kings. Elisha is going about his day and a woman, a widow, comes up to him and she says, my husband has died. I have no money. My creditors are after me. I'm afraid I'm going to be homeless and destitute. What should I do? What can I do? And this is how Elisha responds beginning in verse 2. She's afraid she's going to have to give her boys over as Testament. This widow comes to Elisha and she says, I'm poor, my husband's dead, I'm destitute, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to give my sons over to slavery to pay my debts off. I don't know what to do. And Elisha says, okay, I want you to get, what do you have? Do you have a jar of oil? Great. Go around to your neighbors, ask if you can have access to their recycling bins and get all the milk, get all the gallon jugs you could find. This is essentially what's happening. Get all the jars that you can find from your neighbors, bring them to your house, go into a room by yourself, shut the door behind you and begin to pour the oil from your jar into these other jars. And so she does, as she's told, it probably doesn't make any sense to her. She probably thinks this sounds crazy, but she does it. And it's one of the great miracles of the old Testament that no matter how much she poured, there was still oil in her jar. And all the jars were filled. And then she says, I've done it. I filled all the jars I could find. He says, okay, go and sell that oil and take a chunk of it and pay off your debts. And there should be enough remaining for you to live well for a while until you can figure something else out. And so she was taken care of, but she was taken care of by going to a spiritually mature person and saying, what should I do? And then having the courage to do what she was told. And what you're going to see is that this question isn't as much about how do I know God's will for my life? This sermon and this question is really about, do you have the courage to walk in obedience when it's clear? Because a lot of times it is clear to us what we need to do. We just keep praying, hoping for a different answer because we don't want to do the thing. She did the thing. It was crazy, but she did it. And so similarly in our lives, if we want to hear from God, if we want to know what to do in a difficult decision, we should go to the spiritually mature people in our life. I have a friend named Tyler. And Tyler is, he's the most trusted recommender I have in my life. I will do, and he does research about everything. Two or three years ago, we moved into our new house. I was in an airport, and I had been doing research on security systems. Jen said she wanted an alarm on the house, so I was trying to figure out the best way to do this and how to get this accomplished. Apparently, this is not much of a security system for us, so we need a little bit extra. And I'm in an airport. I can't remember which airport I'm in, and I'm not sure what to do, and I think, I know, I'll call Tyler. I'm certain that Tyler has done research on this. So I called him, and 45 minutes later, we are still talking about security systems from all the research that he's done. He was delighted to have the conversation. I kept saying, dude, I'm so sorry I'm taking up your time on this. I know this is silly. He's like, no, no, no, I love this. Anyways, so the ring system, and he's getting back into it. Tyler, if he tells me, hey, dude, you need to read this book. Hey, man, you need to listen to this podcast. Hey, I watched this show, and it was great. I always say, don't say another word. I don't want to know what it's about. I don't need to know what it's about. I will consume it tomorrow. He is the number one recommender in my life. If Tyler says it about silly, frivolous stuff, there's no one that knows more about less important things than Tyler. So I just go with whatever he says. We need spiritual Tylers in our lives. When we face indecision, we go to them. They've done the work. They've done the research. They're in the word. They're a man or a woman of prayer. They know how to hear from God. They've matured past us. We go trust their voice when we can't trust our own. We go to spiritually mature people and we ask them what they think, trusting their ability to hear from God. If you feel like I have no idea how to hear from God, the first thing you do, go talk to spiritually mature people who know God's word and who are prayed up. Before I took this job, when it was offered to me, before I agreed to come, I went to six different senior pastors who are far more experienced than me. And I put everything in front of them. And I said, does this seem wise? Do you think this is a good idea? I went to spiritually mature people who know better than me. As a spiritually mature Christian trying to discern God's word, I went to people who had already moved beyond me and asked them what they thought. And I sought their counsel. Proverbs has a lot to say about seeking wise counsel. So if we want to hear from God, we go to wise people. The other place we go, and the only reason I didn't put this one first is because sometimes you don't know where to go in God's word. And so sometimes we need a spiritually mature person to direct us there. But the other place we go to hear from God is to know that we hear from God's word. What do we hear from God? We hear from his word. Look at Luke chapter five, verses four through six. Simon Peter had been out fishing all night and he comes back and Jesus sends him back to throw out the nets. In verse 4, when he had finished speaking, he said to Simon, put out into deep water and let down the nets for a catch. Simon answered, Master, we've worked hard all night and haven't caught anything, but because you say so, I will let down the nets. When they had done so, they caught such a large number of fish that their nets began to break. A lot of us know this story. A lot of us know this story. We've seen this before. But what I want you to see is Peter is responding to the very words of God, the words of the Savior. He gets done with the night of fishing and Jesus says, you didn't catch anything, go back out, cast in deep water. Which, by the way, deep water's further away, so it's no small thing that he's asking after a full night of fishing. And Peter says, we just did that, but since you told me to, I will. And he has the courage and the fidelity to obey. Which, again, is what this question is really about. Once you have discerned God's voice, do you have the courage to walk in accordance with it? They go out, they cast the nets, just like Jesus told them to, and they caught more than they could ever imagine catching before. The nets were breaking from pulling in the fish. And so the example here is when God speaks to us, we should listen. And we have the benefit of this whole Bible. And we believe about this Bible that it is inspired and it is authoritative and that these words are God's words. And so if we can find it in the Bible, God is speaking to us. And there are some things that we're trying to discern God's will on. And there are very clear passages on that thing. I've had people come to me before and say, should I forgive so-and-so? This happened in my past. I can't forgive them. Do you think God wants me to forgive them? Well, there's a passage for that. That's easy. You go to where Peter asked Jesus that very question, where Peter says, hey, if someone sins against me, I know I should forgive them. But if they do the same sin, how many more times should I forgive them for the same thing? And Peter says, should I do it up to seven times? Thinking this is a generous offer. And Jesus says, I tell you the truth, you should forgive them 70 times seven times. Which means as many times as they commit the offense, you should forgive them. So if you come to me and you go, is it the Lord's will for me to forgive this person? And a lot of times that question is not asked lightly. That question is not asked lightly. Sometimes it's stupid. Sometimes it's, you know, my boyfriend and my girlfriend broke up with me and I can't forgive them. Okay, we'll be a grownup. But other times it's really, really serious stuff. It's stuff from childhood. It's the worst kinds of betrayal and I can't find it in my heart to forgive. Do you think God wants me to forgive? Yeah, it's in the Bible. It's right there. Do you think God wants me to give, even if it's tight, even if finances are difficult? Does God want me to be a generous person and be a giver? Yeah, I think he does. If I have a lot, if I have an overabundance, and 10% is a serious chunk of money, does God still want me to give 10% even though I'm giving generously compared to all the people around me? Yeah, I think he does. I think that's the baseline in Scripture. I think that's pretty clear. So there's some things that we go back and forth about, what's God's will here, when really it's answered in Scripture. And sometimes a spiritually mature person can point us to the right passage. Sometimes we can point ourselves to the right passage. I'll tell you what's really great in this instance. This is my number one sermon prep tool. It's www.google.com. What does the Bible say about forgiveness? What does the Bible say about fathers and mothers? What does the Bible say about child rearing? Now, I know that that sounds ridiculous, and you have to kind of sort through some stuff sometimes to get something of worth, but very often you'll find that someone has made a list of all the verses that address that topic. And it allows you easily just to see, oh, this is what the Bible says about these things. And when we're trying to discern God's will for our life or what we should do in a certain situation, if we're lucky enough to find a passage that addresses it directly, we can be done wondering what God wants us to do. We just again again, have to have the courage to actually do it. Now, sometimes, sometimes we've grown in our maturity. We believe we've heard from God before. We've been obedient to scripture and we allow it to speak to us and into situations in our life, but we might be facing a decision that isn't specifically covered in the Bible. Do I take that job? Do I address that situation? Do I support them in this or not? Do I invest in my friend's company in this way? What non-profit should I serve in? I want to give, and I want to give generously, but there's so many options. What's the right one? How do I know God's will for that? So there's some questions that are not easily laid out in scripture. And for those, we need to learn to listen to God. And one thing we can do to learn to listen to God is sometimes you test God. Sometimes you test him to see. And this is a biblical thing, because that sounds a little out there, put God to the test, but there's a way in which you can do it, and it's appropriate. There's that famous story in Judges with Gideon. Gideon is a judge that God has raised up to overthrow the Midianite oppressors of his Hebrew people. And Gideon thinks that God wants him to go to battle. He's pretty sure that he's got his army assembled and God wants him to go to battle, but he just wants to be extra sure. So he says, okay, God, I think that this is what you want me to do, but just to be sure, I'm going to go to bed and I'm going to leave a fleece. I'm going to leave a fleece, a rug out in front of my tent. And if I wake up in the morning and that fleece is wet with dew and the ground around it is dry, I will take that as a signal from you that this is what I need to do. So he goes to sleep. He wakes up the next morning. Sure enough, fleece is wet. We know this. The ground is dry. And he says, okay, God, I'm going to go do the thing. That's not what he says because Gideon is like us. Gideon actually says this when he finds the fleece. Look at this verse in Judges 6, verse 39. Then Gideon said to God, I love this part, do not be angry with me. Please don't be mad. Just let me make just one more request. Allow me one more test with the fleece, but this time make the fleece dry and let the ground be covered with dew. So he's like, all right, that was a cool trick that you did with the fleece last night. But just to be sure, can you do the opposite? Can we flip it? Are you that fancy? So he goes to bed. He wakes up the next day. The ground around the fleece is soaked in dew. The fleece is dry. And Gideon knows what he needs to do. He assembles the men and he goes to war. And he goes to war knowing that he has the assurance of God to do this thing. And the wonderful part about putting God to the test is when you put him to the test for very difficult things, we don't have to lead people into war, most of us. But sometimes we have to move our families to different states. Sometimes we have to eat a big thing of humble pie. Sometimes we have to take a new job that we don't know about. Sometimes we have to step off the cliff hoping that God will catch us. And when those times come, it is so helpful to put God to the test and be able to go back to a clear signal that he gave us, yes, this is what I want you to do, move forward. There's been so many times in the life of grace and in my tenure as a senior pastor where I've had to put God to the test and say, if you want this to happen, you're going to be the one that has to do it because I don't see a way forward. And then he's made a path forward. Sometimes we can put God to the test like this. Now, I'm not recommending this, but this is a famous story in my family. And every time I hear this story, I think it's false. I think one of my great aunts or uncles made it up, okay? But my mom swears that it's true. And if you can't trust your mom, who can you trust? I have a great aunt. I forget her name. Maybe Sarah. And my whole family on my mom's side is from the South. My pop all grew up in South Georgia, literally on a dirt floor. My mom all grew up in Red Stick, Baton Rouge, and she's Cajun. So I've got a real good combination of low quality individuals in my ancestry. And my great aunt Sarah was a widow and lived alone. And her house was in disrepair. Her roof looked terrible and I believe was leaking in some places. And she was a woman of faith. She was a devout woman of faith and she went to church every Sunday. And the story goes that one day she got fed up with her roof leaking in the way that it looked. And she marched out in her front yard and she turned and faced her house and she said, Father, everybody around here knows that I'm your daughter. And if this is how you want to see them taking care of your daughter, then that's your business. But I should think that you would want better for me. And then she walks back in the house. Again, I wouldn't try it. Walks back in the house. That was her prayer. It was her test. The next day, no kidding around, she gets a knock at the door. Two dudes from a roofing company. We're new in town. We can see that you need a new roof. We'd love to replace it for free if you'll allow us to use you as a model home and put a sign in your yard. And she says, thank you, Father. Yeah, that'll be fine. She gets a new roof. God wanted her to have that roof, no doubt about it. Sometimes we put them to the test. Here's something that I do sometimes. Sometimes I'll be concerned for a person, or I'll have something that I think I want to say to somebody that's hard. Maybe I see a pattern, and I just want them to know that I see it it and I want them to know that I want to encourage them through it. Or maybe I can just see that they're having a hard time and I want to give them a space to talk about that hard time. But I'm not sure if I need to interject myself. I'm not sure if they want that. You know those prompts that you feel of, I think I should probably talk to that person. I think I need to call them. Or maybe you're in a social gathering and you see somebody and you're like, oh yeah, I wanted to talk to them about this, but I don't know if it's appropriate. I don't know if I should. The prayer that I'll pray when I feel those things is, Father, if you want me to talk to that person, will you make that possible? If I'm in a social gathering and there's somebody that I know I need to talk to, but I can't just walk up to a circle of people and start talking to them about that thing. I will pray, God, if you really do want me to say that to them, will you put me alone with them and give me a window to do that? And then I just know, and I'm sensitive to, if I'm just moving about whatever it might be, a grace's big night out, and this person ends up alone with me. Now, none of you are going to talk to me at Grace's Big Night Out. I'm not talking to him. He might have prayed about this. I'm not going over there. But if there's a door that God opens to that conversation and it becomes appropriate, I have to have the courage to walk through it. Or I'm going to lunch with somebody, and I know that there's something I want to say to them, but I'm not sure if I should, I'll pray, God, if I'm supposed to say what I think you want me to say, will you have them bring it up so that I can walk in confidence into that conversation, knowing that I'm doing the right thing? And see, for me, that's an exercise in discipline, Because I don't know how many of you are like me in that you're messed up and you love confrontation. I love it. I want to say the thing. Like, I don't want to be mean about it. I just want to put my face in the wood chipper and have the conversation. Let's just do it. It's best for everybody. I'm chomping at the bit to have those conversations. So what I'm asking for is like, God, you tell me when I'm let off the leash and I'll go. That's what I'm asking for. Others of you are just, you don't even need a leash. You don't need an electric fence. You're just going to stay in your yard. You're not going, you are so scared of those conversations. But let me tell you something. If God's placed something on your heart that he might want you to say to somebody, and then he opens the door for you to do that, have the courage and the obedience to step through it. Because I can tell you from experience, God uses those conversations. When you're having a holy conversation, a holy confrontation, a holy period of encouragement, it refreshes refreshes you and it refreshes them and it builds both of your faiths and It builds your ability to hear from God God I think you want me to say this then he opens the door then you walk through it and you say it and now that you that exists in your life as a marker of a time that you heard God's voice. And you're starting to learn it. And you're starting to walk in obedience. And he's able to use you as more of a tool as you walk through life. And it builds their faith. Because you can say to them, you know, I just have been thinking about you and praying about you. And this is on my heart and so I just feel like I want to say it. I've never said that and been met with apathy. No one's ever said that to me and I've gone, yeah, I didn't really need to hear that. I think you missed it on that one. It's always right. It's always good. So whether it's a conversation or a situation, it's okay to put God to the test and say, God, if this is truly what you want me to do, can you give me this kind of sign? Can you do this thing? Can you bring this person into my life? Will you have them, if you, I've even done it before too. I've said, God, if you want me to talk to that person about that thing, I'm going to need you to have them call me today. And then an hour later, my phone will ring and I'll see their name and my heart will sink because it's like, shoot, I have to do it. I thought that was, I thought I was going to sneak that one by him. So one thing we can do is we can put God to the test. And as we do that, eventually you learn to hear God on your own. So as we talk progressively about how can we hear from God, eventually we talk to spiritually mature people who know how to hear from God. Then we consult Scripture, God's Word. Then we start putting God to the test to learn when we are and when we are not hearing God's voice. And then eventually we learn to hear God on our own. John 14, 27 says this, or 10, 27, sorry, it's wrong in your notes. My sheep listen to my voice. I know them and they follow me. We are taught, Jesus says that his sheep know his voice, right? That when the sheep are out there, all the shepherds in the world can be yelling, but when our shepherd yells, we know and we look. I've always thought about this as God's dad whistle. Every dad worth his salt has a whistle. Charlie Healy, if you don't have one, you've got to develop one. I don't want to see you shaking your head. You go home and you work on it. Or you're underserving Henry. Every dad worth his salt has a whistle. You have to. You have to. We were on the subway in Washington, D.C. this week. And Jen and the kids were in a seat. And I was standing in the door because I had the stroller that I had to hold up. And I wanted Lily to see something. So I just gave her a little. And it cut through just that loud. but it cut through everything. She's reading a book. She looks up right at me. She knew it was me. And I was like, yes, I'm a good dad. That's all you need. You don't need to know. I didn't snap at her or be too hard on her at any point in the trip. You don't even need to know that. I'm a good dad because she responded to that whistle. I can remember being in a park when I was a kid at the ballpark or something like that running around and I would hear my dad's whistle and I knew, I knew, I know Rayvon has a whistle. I knew that I had about 10 seconds to get my butt to the car or it was going to get tore up. Like I knew that, right? Every dad worth his salt has a whistle. We hear it and we know. When we've been walking with God long enough, we know his voice. We don't have to put him to the test anymore. We just say, yes, Lord, okay, open the door and I will walk through it. Do you want me to take this job? Do you want me to do this thing? Do you want me to fix this relationship? When we've been walking with him long enough, we know his voice. It's just, I don't think it's describable. When people say, how do you know you hear from God? When you've put them to the test enough times and you've learned to recognize that impulse in your life and in your heart, you learn when it's the Holy Spirit and when it's not. But that's just a repetition thing. It's just a time thing. We've spoken to spiritually mature people. We've consulted his word. We've we've put him to the test and over time we learn to identify his voice finally as we progress through it you expect to hear from God now this one's wild to me I've never known anyone that was like this but it's in the Bible so it's's true. 2 Kings 4.27. I'm going to read it to you. This will seem unremarkable, but you'll see where I'm going. 2 Kings 4.27. So the widow is coming back. Her son has died. And when she reached the man of God at the mountain, she took hold of his feet. Gehazi came over to push her away, but the man of God said, leave her alone. She is in bitter distress, but the Lord has hidden it from me and has not told me why. So he's going through his day. The widow that he helped with the oil earlier in the chapter, her son dies, and she comes to Elisha in distress. And she grabs his feet, and Gehazi was his assistant, his right-hand man, and he goes to push her away. Like, that's not appropriate. Don't do that. And Elisha holds him off and says, don't do that. She's in bitter distress. And this is a phrase I will, it will never not impact me when I see it. And when I think about it, the Lord has hid it from me and I'm not sure why. Do you understand that Elisha walked so closely with the Lord and heard his voice so regularly that he went through his day and listening and expecting to hear things from God. He is surprised that God did not tell him about the death of this boy that he is close to and that he loves. He's surprised that God didn't. Can you imagine walking through your day and going, oh, so-and-so just got diagnosed with cancer, I'm going to call him. That just occurring to you because you can hear God's voice that clearly, but that's who Elisha was and that's who we should strive to be. I know that that feels like a very long way off for most, if not all of us, but I believe it's possible based on the example of Elisha to listen to God so intently and so regularly and to know his voice so well that he begins to tell us things that we're not even asking about. And the last thing I would say about hearing God's voice and how do we discern it is something that I say very regularly. God often speaks in stereo. God often speaks in stereo. If you're a new Christian, you want to know, or you're a newly engaged Christian, you want to know how to hear God's voice and discern his will. Know that he speaks in stereo. If you have multiple mature friends saying the same thing, that's stereo. If you have a friend saying something and you're reading scripture and you're not even seeking out an answer for this, but a verse jumps off the page in a new way that's in some way directly applies to your situation, we call that, my buddy Harris calls that a God wink. Just God winking at you going, yeah, I got you. I'm taking care of you. That's my voice. You can trust it. Or you're having a conversation and it comes up and this person says a thing and you're like, you didn't even know I was dealing with that, but that's exactly what I'm dealing with right now. This must be a God thing. Yeah, it must be. Or you come to church and I'm preaching about something and it happens to be exactly what you're dealing with that week, which happens all the time. People come up to me afterwards and go, you have no idea, but either my wife called you and told you to preach that to me, or the Holy Spirit is speaking to you because that's exactly what I needed. God often speaks in stereo. And if you find yourself in a season of indecision, if you find yourself not knowing what God's will is, but you've heard the same thing from multiple sources, it might not be that you don't know what to do. It might just be that you don't have the courage to do it yet. Because like I said, this sermon is not really about learning to discern the voice of God. It's about challenging ourselves to walk in confidence once we've heard it. These are the ways that we hear it. And if God is speaking to you in stereo, then you already know what you should be doing. So I'm going to pray for us. I'm going to pray for those of you who are in seasons of indecision that God will bring some clarity, that he will speak to you in stereo and multiple trusted sources. And I'm going to pray that for those of you who want to learn the voice of God will have opportunities even this week to begin to hear him and put him to the test and walk in faith. Let's pray. Father, thank you for this morning. Thank you for speaking to us. Thank you for being a God who hears, but also a God who speaks. God, give us ears to hear you. Give us hearts to obey you. Help us walk in confidence once we've heard from you. God, if there is someone here, as a matter of fact, I know there are people here who find themselves in these seasons of indecision. Would you give them clarity for those choices? Would you give them confidence to walk according to your will? And would you make your will abundantly clear to them? Father, for those of us who are learning to hear your voice, would you give us a chance even this week to hear it? Would you give us a chance to put you to the test so that we might walk in faith and so learn to hear your voice more and more? Would we be like your sheep who know your voice and respond to it? And one day, maybe, God, we can be like Elisha and even have the boldness to expect to hear from you. We pray these things in your son's name. Amen.

All right, well, good morning, everybody. As Mike said, if you're on vacation and you're watching us online, thank you for doing that. My name is Nate. I get to be one of the pastors here. If I hadn't gotten the chance to meet you, I'd love to do that in the lobby after the service. Right now, I want to continue in our series called Mark's Jesus, where we are looking at Jesus through the perspective of Mark's gospel, asking God and expecting God to prepare our hearts and minds as a church to celebrate Easter here in a few weeks. This week, we come to a pretty famous story in the gospels. It's not just in the gospel of Mark, it's in the others as well. It's the story that we probably think of as the rich young ruler. So I'm just going to ruin it off the bat for you. I'm just going to tell you the story really quickly because I think that there's some common ideas that we have about this story that if we will examine it further, we might find to be a bit erroneous and unhelpful. But the story of the rich young ruler for the unindoctrinated is a rich man goes up to Jesus and he says, Jesus, what must I do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus says, you have to follow the Ten Commandments. And he says, I've done this my whole life since I was a boy. At which point we all kind of roll our eyes like, nobody can follow the Ten Commandments. What a pretentious guy trying to make a point about who he is and yada, yada, yada. And we kind of demonize him, villainize him a little bit and judge him for his hyperbole about his faith. And Jesus says, okay, since you follow the commandments, since you're a little boy, sell everything that you own and then follow me. And the man hangs his head and he walks away because that's too high of a price for him to pay. This is the story and this is the story that most of us know or are familiar with. You may not have even heard it told before, but as I went through it, I bet even if you're unfamiliar with that part of scripture, I bet it was ringing some bells and you thought, oh yeah, I've heard this before. And we tend to, like I said, villainize the rich man. He didn't have enough faith. He was pretentious about how faithful he was. And then he wasn't willing to part with his possessions to follow Christ. And then we apply that however we apply it. And typically we tend to say, well, you don't really have to sell everything that you own to inherit eternal life, to get into heaven, to be a follower of God. You don't really have to do that. It's about a mentality. You have to be willing to do that. And then we all do what mental exercise. We all trick ourselves into believing that we would give away all of our things for eternal life, that we would happily. I'm open-handed. The lake house is God's. I let a pastor stay there two days a year. And so it's God's lake house. It's a service for him, right? This is what we do. I don't need this car. It just gets me from point A to point B. I can't help that it costs $65,000. We convince ourselves I'm totally willing to give up everything. And then in reality, we don't. So we kind of shy away from the story a little bit because I think it makes us uncomfortable. But I think that if we'll reflect on it, is that Don Sutherland back there? Don. Hey, pal. Last time I saw Don, he's in the hospital. Yeah, praise God. This is great. He was getting calf implants. It wasn't anything big deal. Don't worry about him. Don, you screwed me up. Where am I? Oh, yeah. So here's how I think we can actually relate to this story and to this man in more ways than you probably realize. I don't know how many of you in your life have ever felt wealthy. I don't know how many of you would ever describe yourselves as rich. I know that in this room, we run kind of the gamut of middle class America. There's some of us that are on the bottom end of middle class. There's some of us that are on the high end of middle class. And maybe you are someone who would say, you know, I've been fortunate and I am wealthy. And that's great. But what I want us to reflect on this morning as Americans, this is a point that I've made before. to people to ever exist on the face of the planet. Do you understand that? Even if you wouldn't consider yourself wealthy and you've never thought that you were rich. I remember the time when I felt the most wealthy in my whole life was when I was 15 years old and we bought a new house. We moved into the nice neighborhood where the cool kids were that had a swim in tennis. Evergreen Crossings. It was a new development. In 1995 or 6, the house was $235,000. We bought this house. It had a basement. I had a pool table. We hung out at my house. My dad bought an Acura. Okay? Right. We were highfalutin. We went to Outback like once a month. We were a big deal. That's the wealthiest I ever felt. And then at some point I was, I knew I was going to go into ministry. I can remember laying on my bed, looking at my room thinking this is the nicest house I'm ever going to live in. I'm not going to be able to afford this stuff. so you better get while the getting's good, buddy. But that was the only time in my life I felt wealthy, and I had no perspective of what it actually was. And I don't know if you felt that way or not, but what I want you to see is, historically speaking, everyone in this room is incredibly wealthy. A Roman senator would come to your house and marvel at the conveniences at your disposal. You mean you can just do this and fresh water comes out? You can just drink it? You don't have to send somebody to a well to get it? No, I can watch TV. Your air is conditioned? Talk to me about this. What is that? You have your own soft chairs that you buy on Facebook Marketplace for virtually nothing? This is unbelievable if you think about the extravagances that you have in your life. Last night, do you know what I had for dinner? I had Mongolian beef. I had Mongolian beef. 200 years ago, if you wanted Mongolian beef, do you know where you had to go? Frigging Mongolia. That's where you had to go. I went to knee Asian kitchen and my mom paid for it with her credit card. It's not even real money. It's just pretend money that future dad has to worry about. I don't even care. I ordered all the Chinese food I could. It was delicious. Do you understand how privileged we are? Do you understand how wealthy we are in that? How little we are concerned with things and the conveniences that exist at all of our fingertips. See, I think when we read this story and it says that a rich man came up to Jesus, that we immediately go, not me. That story's about someone else. That story's about someone else talking to Christ. Because not very many of us call ourselves rich. And even if in the back of our head we know that we are, we tend to not think of ourselves in that way. And so I think what's probably true is that for most of your life, when you've encountered this story, that story has been about somebody else that lives a different life than you. But what I want you to see, Americans, is that this story is about you. This is you leaning in and talking to Jesus. This is you asking this question. What must I do to inherit eternal life? What must I do to follow you? This man is us and he's us in more than one way. I'm going to show you. Look with me at Mark chapter 10 verses 17 through 20. We're going to go all the way through verse 31 so you can leave your Bible open and I'll be coming back to it. But I just want to look at these first four verses real quick. As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. Good teacher, he asked, what must I do to inherit eternal life? Why do you call me good? Jesus answered, no one is good except God alone. You know the commandments. You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not steal. You shall not give false testimony and shall not defraud. Honor your father and mother. Teacher, he declared. All these I have kept since I was a boy. Okay. So we know that he's rich. That's undebatable, indisputable. That's a fact given to us in the text. He's a rich man, comes up to Jesus. But I don't know if you're like me in that. I've always kind of postured him as someone who is trying to show off to the crowds and elevate himself. What must I do? I want to follow you. I'm righteous. I want to be good. And Jesus says, follow the commandments. And he says, I've done that since I was a boy. I've always kind of read this as him posturing a little bit. But when you look at the story, that's not what he's doing. First of all, it starts off and it says, look at the text. It says he ran to Jesus. He saw Jesus and he ran up to him, which was undignified to do. You didn't run in the ancient world. You guys don't run now unless you put on certain clothes and then you get on the sidewalk and then you jog for a certain amount of time. It's okay to run then, but it's not okay to run anywhere else in your adult life. So he runs up to Jesus. And what does he do? Does he posture in front of everybody? No, he falls on his knees. And he says, what must I do to follow you? So right off the bat, what we see from this man is not someone posturing so that he looks good in front of some crowd that he doesn't know. What we see is this sincere faith and questioning of this man who runs up to Jesus and falls on his knees and says, what must I do to inherit eternal life? Then Jesus says, follow the 10 commandments. And he says, I've done them since I was a boy. And again, I think we're tempted to condemn him for hyperbole here because no one follows the commandments perfectly. But I think if we rephrase it and we think about ourselves, especially if you are like me and you don't have any memory of life outside of church. My memory doesn't go back beyond church because I've been in church since the day that I was born. So for me, faith has always been a part of my life. And if you were to ask me, Nate, have you always lived according to your faith? Have you always lived in your faith? Have you always trusted in Jesus? Have you always kept the tenets of the Bible the best you could? My answer would be sincerely yes. Sincerely I have. And I could say like he said, I've been doing them since I was a young boy. I don't think that he's implying that he's done it perfectly. I think what he's saying is this is the only faith I've ever known. I've done my best to uphold the Ten Commandments my whole life. And so what we see here is the sincerity of his faith. And this is where I think we can relate to him. I want to put it on the screen because I want us to read it and I want these words to matter. We are rich and our faith is sincere. This man was rich and his faith was sincere. Grace, I've been your pastor for eight years. You are rich, whether you feel that way or not, and I know in my heart that your faith is sincere. I have seen your sincere faith. I have seen your true desire for Christ. I know that you relate to this man. I know that you want to follow Jesus. I know that you want to do the things that you're supposed to do, that you want to do small groups, that you want to serve, that you want to help, that you want to reach your community. I know that you care deeply about your faith. And because I know that, I know that you can relate to this man who is not posturing, who is not positioning himself, who is not trying to show off. He went to Jesus and he asked a sincere question, what must I do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus says, live faithfully according to what you've been taught. And he says, I have since I was a boy. And many of you have. And as long as you've known Jesus since he converted you, whether it was as a child or as an adult, you've faithfully followed him your whole life. And in that way, you're just like this man asking Jesus, what should I do to inherit eternal life? And listen to me. Here's how else I know that his faith is sincere. Do you understand what he is having to do to even ask that question? He grew up Jewish. He grew up following the laws. He grew up with a sincere faith. Presumably, he grew up going to temple, learning the Torah, following a rabbi, making his sacrifices, knowing the law. And now Jesus is saying, I am the natural conclusion to that. This is a seed change. This is considering leaving your old religion and following a new religion. This is like you converting from an old faith and transitioning into a new faith. Those of you who have walked from Catholicism into Protestantism and just how reckless we are with our liturgy and everything that we do, it's a shock to the system. It's even more than that to go from being a practicing Jew to this is Jesus. You're the Messiah. I want to follow you. What do I do? Do you understand the radical change that he's undergoing to do this? This is not posturing, guys. He's sincerely going to Christ going, I believe you are who you say you are. I want to follow you. What must I do? And this is the question that we ask Christ. I believe you are who you say you are. I want to follow you. What do I do? How do I do it? Every time we come to church, we're asking this question implicitly. Every time we go to small group, every time we open our Bible, every time we pray, that's the implicit question in our actions. Jesus, I want to follow you. I believe sincerely in who you are and who you say you are. What do I do? And Jesus' answer is tough. But before he gives this answer, sell everything you own and follow me, we get this glimpse into Jesus. And I've never noticed it before until I was studying for this sermon. And I think it's profound. So we're just going to look at this one sentence at the beginning of verse 21. After he said, teacher, all these things I have kept since I was a boy, the beginning of 21, Jesus looked at him and loved him. Jesus looked at him and loved him. I'm going to come back to this verse. We'll read the whole thing. But I want us to stop on that sentence. This man came to Jesus. In sincerity of faith. Said I believe you are who you say you are. What do I do to follow you? And Jesus says keep the commandments. And he says I've done that. I've lived out my faith. And then Jesus looks at him and is filled with compassion for him. He loves him. And he empathizes for him because Jesus knows what he's about to say. And he knows that when he says it, it's going to discourage him so much that he's going to walk away because it's a price that's too high for him. But before he says it, he looks at him and he loves him. And I want you to know that if we are in this story and if we agree that we are rich and we agree that our desire for Jesus is sincere, then we read ourselves into this text And we put ourselves in that moment. And if Jesus looked at him and loved him, then I'm telling you, he looks at you and he loves you. Jesus looks at you and he loves you. He cares for your soul. And here's why I think he had so much compassion for this man. Because Jesus understands this. Your wealth inoculates you from your faith. I started off by saying we are rich. All of us. And I want you to reflect on that affluence. understanding that the reason that Jesus looked at this man with compassion, because his faith was sincere, is because Jesus knew what he was about to say. He knew he was going to tell him, sell everything and follow me. Show me I'm the most important. And so before he said it, he looked at him and he loved him. And Jesus, this morning, American Christian, looks at you and he loves you. Because what he understands, and what I want you to understand, is that your faith inoculates, or your wealth inoculates you from your faith. You understand being born into American affluence serves almost like being vaccinated when you're a baby against faith, because we have so few times in our life where it's actually required of us with so few times where it's actually required of us. With so few times where it's actually required of us that we actually need to use our faith. I want to read you the rest of this story and then I want to reflect on it together and talk about this idea of our wealth inoculating us from our faith. Serving as a vaccine that prevents us from growing faith. So let's finish the story and then we'll reflect. At this, Jesus looked at him and loved him. Verse 21, one thing you lack, he said, go sell everything you have and give to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come follow me. And at this, the man's face fell. He went away sad because he had great wealth. Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, how hard is it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God? The disciples were amazed at his words, but Jesus said again, children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God. The disciples were even more amazed and said to each other, who then can be saved? Jesus looked at them and said, with man, Then Peter spoke up. No one who is left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me in the gospel will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age. Homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields. Along with persecutions. And in the age to come, eternal life. But many who are first will be last and the last will be first. That's the whole story. But Jesus looks at him and he loves him because he knows he's going to tell him, sell everything you have, give it to the poor, and then come follow me. And he knows that he's going to drop his head and walk away. And then Jesus says, and this is a verse, Americans, that should haunt us. It is more difficult for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man. Or it's more difficult for a rich man to enter a kingdom of heaven than it is for a camel to go through the eye of a needle. Jesus says intentionally, the wealthiest people among us have the biggest difficulty with faith. And I'm pressing this this morning because I don't think it's something that we think about. I don't think that this idea is something that we're cognizant of. I don't think that we've ever thought of our wealth inoculating us from our faith, preventing us from having faith. And when I say that, here's what I mean. I can remember one time in particular when I was what I call relegated to prayer. Some of you know this story already, so I'm sorry for repeating it, but it's the best example I have of this. Jen and I struggled a long time to get pregnant with our first child, about eight years. And I think it was the fall of 2014, in October, we learned that we were pregnant. We were overjoyed. This was the answer to a lot of prayers. I remember telling my mom in her garage and having to catch her because she about passed out. She's excitable. She's an emotional lady. The whole family was overjoyed. But in December, we learned that we had miscarried. And it was the most profound sadness i've ever endured it was a it was a dark season and i'm grateful for it because as a pastor i've walked with people through their miscarriages and through their struggles and it makes me infinitely more empathetic. But it was a hard season. And God in his goodness, by about Mother's Day the following year, allowed us to become pregnant again. And I can remember finding out that Jen was pregnant and doing all the research I could. What can I do as a father to help bring this baby to term? How can I help? Can I get two jobs? Do I need to stay up 24-7 and help Jen in some way? What can I do? I wanted desperately to do something. I wanted desperately to have some measure of control and some measure of influence on bringing this child to term. This child that would become Lily, that was Lily. I wanted to do, there was nothing I could have been asked to do that I wouldn't have done to try to protect that child and bring them to term. But here's the thing. I was relegated to prayer. There was nothing I could do but pray. And so I prayed. And it's one of the few times in my life that I felt like I had no choice but to have faith. I had no choice but to fall on my knees and pray. See, our money buys us the mirage of independence. It buys us the mirage of independence. It makes us think that there's always something that we can do. It makes us think that there's always a string to pull. There's always a switch to flip. It's the American dream of independence. We are culturally. I can't think of another culture. I was talking about this with my men's group this week. I can't think of another culture in the history of the world that prizes independence as such a high value as we do. We are the American cowboys. We are independents. We pick ourselves up, buy our bootstraps, and we do it ourselves. And part of the way we do that ourselves is we amass wealth around us. And we take care of things. Something goes wrong, we get an attorney. The car's broken, we call our insurance. We don't know what it is to pray that a storm won't come so that the crops last and the next three years aren't terrible. We don't know what it is to be at the whims of Mother Nature living out in the open. We don't know what it is to be impoverished and to hope God will provide the next day. None of us, very few of us, if any in this room, have ever had to be concerned about where their next meal was coming from. You don't know what it is to be food insecure. And so in our wealth and in our affluence, we are so rarely relegated to faith. We are so rarely relegated to prayer that we can almost not relate to people who have to daily live by faith. This is why Jesus says it's more difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle because our wealth inoculates us from our faith and buys us the mirage of independence that we don't have. It's only in life's most extreme moments of cancer or brokenness or addiction or abuse. It's only in our moments of helplessness that we allow ourselves to be relegated to prayer. And we lose the mirage of independence. And as American Christians, I just want us to see the chasm between us and the faith that our life requires and the vast majority of human history and the faith that their life requires because ours requires so very little. And a lot of times, it's the fault of our wealth. This is why I think we can juxtapose this story of the rich young ruler and the story of the widow, giving the widow's might. In Mark chapter 12, this is another famous story, 12 verses 41 through 44. Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts, but a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins worth only a few cents. Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their wealth, but she, out of her poverty, put in everything, all she had to live on. We know this story well. It's a remarkable testament of her faith. We use it for giving sermons. When I scheduled this, this was going to be a giving sermon. But as I studied it, that is not the point that I wanted to make. And I don't want to use the story of the widow's mite to guilt you into giving or giving more. I just want us to reflect on her faith. And here's what I'm willing to bet you. That this wasn't her first rodeo. She gave all she had. I bet it wasn't the first time. She gave all she had and then she said, God, I need you to take care of me. Please. I bet that's not the first time she prayed that prayer. What I'd be willing to bet is that that woman had many days where she was relegated to prayer. That she had many days where she said, God, I have nothing. You're going to have to take care of me, please. She had many days where she just opened her hands and her arms and said, I'm in your hands, God. I hope I can eat today. And so what we see here in this story is very likely not a first time occurrence. What we see, I believe, is a faith that was hard won over time from her daily relying on God over and over and over again for simple provision so that when she gave that day, that was no big deal. If we went, if we all went and cleared out our checking account, just your checking account, not your savings account, not your Bitcoin, just your checking account. If we wrote a check for that total amount and gave it to something that Jesus was doing, said, here, Father, take it, we would be nervous. We would be scared. That would be a life-altering event for us. We would remember that for the rest of our years. I'm just guessing. I don't know. It's not in the text. I can't say it with authority. I bet that lady forgot that day. She cleared out her checking account like she probably had so many other times and simply chose to trust God. So this morning, I don't have an application for you. I'm not preaching this to try to get you to give. I believe God wants us to be generous people. I believe it's biblical. I believe we should. That's not what this is about. I don't want you to feel bad for your wealth. God gave it to you. He made you a steward of it. It's a huge responsibility. I'm not here to guilt you about it. I'm not here to tell you to sell everything and give it to the kingdom, unless you want to build that building, then go ahead. I'm not here to tell you to do that. I'm not here to leverage the widow's might to get you to become a more faithful giver. I'm just here because I want you to consider where you sit in history. I want you to consider how much you actually do relate to this man, that you are rich and your faith is sincere. And I want you to consider as I pray, God, how has my wealth, how have my resources, how has my independence inoculated me from my faith in you? How is it impacting me in ways that I don't see? And how can I step towards living a greater life of faith so that maybe one day I will have exercised my faith muscles enough that I can have the faith of the widow and the widow's might. I'm just here to encourage you to reflect on that. Please do that as I pray and we'll finish up the service. Father, thank you for these stories. Thank you for being honest with us, for helping us as rich Americans see the peril that we exist in. God, I pray that you would use this morning to grow our faith. I pray that we would find ways to be more reliant on you, that we would not allow the resources that we were born into, the culture into which we were born, the things that you've allowed us to acquire, the blessings that you've given us. God, help us to see those things for what they are and help us to see, God, that sometimes they prevent us from having a necessary faith in you. Make us more like the widow, more willing to rely, more easy with our faith. And God, draw us near to you as we finish this service today. In Jesus' name, amen.

Well, good morning, Grace. I'm Erin. I do get the privilege of being one of your pastors. And as my daughter just said a second ago, an all-purpose pastor. I just found that one as a funny little whatever. So thanks, Zoe. I appreciate that. And I appreciate everyone being in the building today. I know how easy it is when you hear that Nate isn't preaching to just say that you're going to sleep in that day. I get it, and it's okay. So thank you for coming and giving me someone to speak to. I do appreciate that. And a little, for those of you guys that don't know, Nate is on his way to Istanbul, Turkey. He's going to participate for the next week in helping to train up some Iranian pastors so that they can go and preach the gospel. So he's excited and thrilled. And I just spoke with Jen and the update is, is he's in the air. He's left Germany and he's next stop is Istanbul. So keep him in your prayers as we kind of move forward this week. That would be appreciated. So I wanted to start our morning this morning with a question. And my question to you is, what are you afraid of? And I got to thinking about people's fears. I know what some of mine are. And I decided to do just a little research and see exactly what other people were afraid of. And so I Googled it. And that does count as research. Don't judge. It counts. But I Googled it, and it's amazing how many top ten lists you can find when you Google things. So a couple of ones in no particular order that popped up was aerophobia, which is the fear of flying. And I know there's probably somebody in this room that is kind of up in that category. There was also acrophobia, which is the fear of heights. I fall squarely in that category. You can ask my family. They have lots of stories of me in heights. And none of them are pretty, I promise. There was also arachnophobia. And I know this one is quite a few of y'all because they made a movie about this. It's the fear of spiders. I have an aunt who, strong woman, nurse, nothing bothered her, but a spider could send her screaming in a pass down the road. It was bad. And then there was another one called glossophobia, but it's the fear of public speaking, which, as you can, that one's not one of mine. I know it happens to be a lot of other people's. I've had conversations, and people have told me that they'd rather die than actually stand up in front of a group of people. And so, guess what? Death and dying is also up there on that list. And so are snakes. I may fall in that category too. So there's all of these different fears out there, things that people are afraid of. And this will all make sense in a minute, but you're going to see where my brain goes sometimes. So I was like, what is a fear? What, what, what is a fear? So I looked that one up too. I love Google by the way. Um, and Webster's dictionary defines a fear as a strong emotion caused by anticipation or awareness of danger. So basically it is some sort of physical response to keep, it helps to keep us safe. It's a way that we're wired that helps to keep us safe okay so that makes a lot of sense but then I got to thinking to my fear of heights is not something that keeps me up at night I don't think your fear of spiders is what wakes you up at 3 a.m. questioning all the things. Am I right? Yeah, probably so. But does that mean that it's not a fear? No. The things that are keeping us up in the middle of the night are things like fear of failure or fear of loneliness or fear of change or inadequacy or judgment or rejection and I think the list could go on and on and you have yours, whatever it may be. These are still real fears, but these fears are caused by a belief system. Something that we've heard, felt, or otherwise. It's not a reaction to danger. It's coming from someplace internal. So how do you combat these fears then? I know how to combat fear of heights, right? I just don't go anywhere where it's tall. That's easy. You can stay away from spiders. Those are easy things that you can avoid. But how do you combat the things that are waking you up at 3 a.m.? What do you do? Again, I googled it. What's the opposite of fears? It's something called faith. The definition of faith is a complete trust or confidence in someone or something. And the writers and Hebrews actually state that having faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance of what we do not see. And that sounds like a really spectacular place to live. Confident in what I hope for, assured in what I do not see, and I wish I could stand before you and tell you that's exactly where I live my life. But I'd be lying. And you know, that's kind of looked down upon in church. So I'll be completely honest. I wish I had that faith every single day. But you know, I'm just like everybody else. I struggle with all these things that happen in my head. I'm a people pleaser. So lo and behold, I'm always afraid. Have I made somebody mad? Or are they judging me? Or am I truly equipped to do what it is that I do? And so the thing about that, though, is that those fears and those things that swirl around in my head, they don't discount the faith that I do have. Because the thing to remember here is, is that when you're afraid, you can still have faith. Because faith isn't the absence of fear, but it's trusting God in the face of it. So your faith is not going to happen without fear. Because what we're called to do then is to not allow this fear to take over, but to learn to trust and lean in to God. And in doing so, our faith starts to become bigger than our fears. So today I want to jump into Mark 5. So I am going backwards from where Nate was. It's just the way I do things. I can't follow along in his pattern. I have to do it my way, right? So I'm going to jump over to Mark chapter 5. We're going to start in verse 21 through 24. I'm going to read those to you, but if you want to grab your Bibles, you guys can follow along. I'm going to do a great deal of probably summarizing as we continue through, just because this is actually a long passage. So 5, 21 through 24, and a great crowd followed him and thronged about him. So here we meet Jairus, who is a ruler in the synagogue. An important point to kind of make here is that this doesn't mean he's a religious leader. He's not exactly a Pharisee or Sadducee. What he is is probably equivalent to one of our elders. He actively takes place in what happens inside of the synagogue. He helps to take care of the building. He's going to be well established in his community. He'll be well thought of in his community and respected. And here he stands with a daughter who is dying. The word that's used here is death is imminent. Like this isn't a long, drawn out process. She's probably got hours to live is what it's referring to here. And so he is coming to Jesus at this moment in his life. And I think back to what are the fears that he had before he took those steps. What fears were going through his brain like what goes through ours. And you can only imagine as a leader in the community. He's possibly fearing loss of status in the community. Or fearing the fact that he's going to lose respect. The other one too is that currently the religious community was not too keen on Jesus, right? They're still not sure who he is at this point. He's out teaching, he's out healing, he's out doing all of the things. He's drawing large crowds everywhere he goes. People aren't quite sure who he is, but the religious community had taken note, and they weren't real happy with him. And so for Jairus to step out, there's a risk, right, of him losing his status completely inside of the religious community. But he does it anyway, right? And Jesus' response to him, which I absolutely love, is he doesn't say a word. Jairus is at his feet and he says, come heal my daughter. And all Jesus does is follow Jairus to his house. Doesn't call him out. Doesn't make a big deal out of it. Just follows him. And so they head off to his house. And if we continue on in scripture, and I'm not going to read this, this is part of the areas where I'm going to kind of summarize things. We meet, they, as they're headed in this large crowd of people on their way to Jairus' house, they come across a woman who is physically ill. She has, scripture states that she's been bleeding for 12 years. She has spent all of her money and all of her resources trying to find a cure. Very unsuccessful. And at this point in time, she's actually worse off than what she was when it started. So she's going to be physically weak. She is an outcast in her community. But she has a belief in her head that if she can only get to Jesus and if she can only touch his garment, she just knows that he can heal her. But what does it take for her to get to him? Because can you imagine what's going through her brain? First of all, she's physically weak. So there has to be this fear of what happens if I don't make it? What happens if I can't get to him through all of these people? I'm going to be like this for the rest of my life. Like my last shot at healing. There's also, I said before, she's an outcast. The thing here is that Jewish ceremonial law stated that she was unclean because she had been bleeding. And by being unclean, that meant that anything or anyone that she touched, she made unclean also. And then there's a whole litany of things that must be done to make that person or that thing clean again. So people avoided her. She had no contacts. She was not allowed in the synagogue at all. We don't know, according to scripture, if she even had a family. But if she did have a family, she would not have been with them. She would have been secluded from them. So I can't even imagine how this woman felt. There was no human touch for 12 years. No one looking at her and making contacts for fear of them becoming unclean. So she makes a choice and she chooses to go to Jesus. Both Jairus and this woman's example to us are huge. That when life gets hard, we can either give in to our fears or we can step forward in faith. Both these people in the midst of places of desperation, places of being like their life was just super hard. They made a conscious choice to choose faith over fear. And I promise you, and I know this in my life, sometimes it's easier to give in to the fear. It's just easier. Because when life's hard, those voices in the head get louder and louder, and sometimes it's just easier to give into that. The step of faith is the hard part, but it's in that hard that we grow and that our faith continues to grow as well. 20, 25 years ago, there was a leadership team inside of a large church in Raleigh. A very large, successful church in Raleigh. There was a lot of things happening inside of this church at this period of time. It was successful, yes, but internally there was stuff going on. Stuff with the denomination people weren't sure There were some decisions that were being made by the large denomination that the leadership team was unsure of There's lots of prayer happening and so on and so forth there was a decision that eventually was made after much prayer except that the leadership team was going to step away from the church and start their own church. They had fears, as you can only imagine. It's a large church in a large area, well-known, well-respected, and here is a group that says, we're going to leave. So there's a chance for loss of reputation. They also know that there's a chance that there's going to be some hurt that happens as they make this decision to pull away. There's lots of places of fear. They also are walking away from a steady paycheck in a way that they're taking care of their families. But they stepped out. They did it. And then they got together, they prayed, they did all their things. They found a little outdoor pavilion to hold a first worship service to see what would happen. And lo and behold, they got there that morning, they set up their little PA system, they put out some chairs, and they waited. And God did his thing. Because over the hill came car after car after car. And all of a sudden, all of the chairs are full. And the next thing you know is there's a full hill of people sitting in the grass. And I was one of them. And I had my husband, my sweet husband was with me. And Zach was there as well as a two-month-old and a car carrier. And we And so just like Jairus and just like the woman, they followed Jesus. They didn't give in, and they kept moving forward. And just like what happened with Grace, the same thing happens with Jairus and with this woman. And Jesus' response to their faith is immeasurably more than they could have ever asked or imagined. Because in the story of the woman, she now reaches out and she touches Jesus' cloak and she is immediately healed, but Jesus isn't done with her. He knows that she's physically healed. Her bleeding has stopped and she's now physically healed, but he knows she's not healed mentally or physically or mentally or emotionally yet. And that's where he has to take her. So in the middle of this crowd that's pushing all around him, he stops and he says, who touched my garments? Okay. There's a lot of people touching your garments, Jesus. Lots of people. But that wasn't for anybody but that woman. And so many times I've read that passage and I kind of, in my head, I heard Jesus like it was an accusation. Like he kind of wheeled around and was like, who touched me? But really, it was the opposite. It was him reaching out with an invitation. He's like, who touched my garments? He's calling to her to come to him, not to embarrass her, but to continue her healing. And that's what she does. She comes forward. She comes forward in fear and in trembling, and she falls at Jesus's feet. And scripture tells us that she tells the whole truth. This is her whole story. She lays out the good, the bad, the ugly, all of the things from the last 12 years, all of the things that she tried to do to fix herself and was very unsuccessful. All of her pain, all of her suffering, all of it, she laid at his feet. When was the last time any of us laid it all at Jesus's feet? When was the last time we followed her example with whatever our circumstance, whatever it is that has us, and we just laid it at his feet and said, this is my story. This is where I am. This is what hurts. This is where I'm mad. This is where I don't understand. This is what I've tried to do on my own. And hey, I'm sorry. When was the last time any of us took the time to do that? When did we actually give it all up? And you can see here the example that Jesus gives and how he's going to respond because he looks at her and he says, daughter. It's such a term of endearment. And he tells her, your face has healed you. Go in peace and be free of this disease. So those words right there and this interaction with Jesus, what he's now officially done is not only did he heal her physically, but by calling her out, he just healed her in her social status. He just said to everybody that's standing around, she's clean. She can come back to you. So after 12 years, she can now, if she had a family, she can go back to her family. She can go back to the synagogue. She's now reunited with her community. And lastly, I think this is an example to Jairus. Because so often God uses our circumstances and our stories to encourage others. Because remember at this point in time, Jairus is still here. He's not mentioned right now, but he's still here. He's standing there. Jesus has led him to this spot and then stopped it. And can you imagine Jairus at this moment? You have a child who's on the verge of death. You were on your way with your healer. You knew she was about to be healed. And all of a sudden it stops while the healer goes off to take care of somebody else. What goes on in my head is Jairus is like pacing. Like he's got to be like, wait, hey Jesus, like what about me? Don't forgive me. My daughter's the one that's dying. I know she's sick. Well, you can come back. We gotta go. Like, time is urgent here. We need to go. And he's wringing his hands and he's pacing and he's doing all of the things. And yet Jesus is still focused straight in on this woman. And the wait. Jesus, you brought me here and now you're going to make me wait. I don't understand. And so what do we do in these waiting moments? When we know Jesus has brought us to this place, I'm here because you brought me here. Why am I sitting and spinning? And what's happening? Where are you in this moment? And so if we go back to grace, I can say that in hindsight, it's 2020. Remember that? This was a long time ago, but I can look back on what happened with grace and say, in our waiting, it was not our finest hour. The church itself, after that first meeting, took off. It was thriving. We had a building. We had thriving ministries. We were well-known and respected inside of the community. I think at the height of all things, there were five services a weekend. We actually had to take over more space because we were like outgrowing the space that we were in. And it was a lot of space. Let's just say that. There was a lot happening inside of the life of the church. It was fantastic. But somewhere in there, there's a but, right? There's always a but. Because somewhere in there, we, I don't know, we started to lose some focus, maybe. Maybe we got a little too big for our britches. I'm not sure. But our leadership started, and this is my opinion here, but I felt like there was a place of leadership making decisions out of fear and not out of faith, which will guide a church and it will guide all of us in not the best path. And as we continue to have these decisions being made and things happening, we had turnovers in leadership. We had turnovers in staff. We had members that were, and they were members back then. We had members that were leaving. We had, and of course, as members leave, finances shrink. We still had all of this property and all of these bills to pay and money is not quite what it used to be. So there was a whole lot of fear that came into our world and we became so much more focused on our circumstances and how to fix our circumstances. We got to a point where we lost another senior pastor. We were drowning in debt. The staff, by this point in time, I'm on staff. The staff was mentally and physically and in some instances spiritually just exhausted from trying to hold it all together. And I promise you there were some Sundays that we just didn't know if we had it in us to do another Sunday. And that also was another Sunday not only physically, but did we have the money to have the lights on? And so as I look back on it now and I look back in these moments of the wait, right? We were waiting on God's plan for grace. We were waiting to see what God was calling us into because he had led us there. There is no doubt in my mind that we were right where we were supposed to be. But it also felt at this moment like he wasn't there anymore. And we acted like that. We acted like that out of that place of fear. But the thing is, thankfully, we serve a very faithful and loving God. He hadn't abandoned us to ourselves. And just if you check back into where Jairus is and this feeling like he's been abandoned. Lord, you brought me here. I don't know why we're still here. And while he's standing there, his worst fear is imagined. A messenger from his house arrives and he looks at Jairus and says, your daughter has died. And the next words out of his mouth are, basically, don't bother the teacher anymore. Because remember, he had come to Jesus to heal his child. Well, your child is now passed away. There's no healing needed. So release him, come home. And this is where I say, Jesus doesn't abandon us in those moments of our waiting in those moments of our worst fears ever. And I imagine what happened next. And this is how I pictured it, and you all may picture it different, but this is me, is that Jesus looked at Jairus and he took Jairus' face in his hands and he said to him, do not be afraid, just believe. And at that moment, I also read that and went, excuse me, that's easier said than done. But remember, Jairus has just witnessed this miraculous healing of this woman. He's just witnessed all that Jesus did after he physically healed her. And he came somehow knowing that Jesus could do something for him, right? So somewhere in his head, he knows that Jesus is his answer. And all Jesus says to him is choose me. That's all you have to do is choose me. Because you get to choose who you listen to. You get to choose if you listen to fear and doubt or if you listen to Jesus. It's your choice. It's our choice. And I promise you, every time I step up on this stage, I have to choose Jesus in order to drown out all the voices in my head. No judgment on that one, please. But there's a lot, there's a lot in my head that tells me, you know, things like you're not equipped. You don't have anything to say that these people want to hear. Who do you think you are that says that you can get up there and stand and speak? Like those are the voices. Those are the things that are in my head. But I have Jesus take my little face too. And he says, don't be afraid. Just believe. Choose me. And in this story with Jairus, that's exactly what he did. He didn't listen. He chose Jesus. They turned and they went to his house. And as in the end of the story, you can read it for yourself, but they go to his house and his daughter has died. But Jesus says, nah, she's asleep. Come on inside. Takes takes the parents in takes a couple of disciples and he grabs hold of the daughter's hands and he tells her to arise and to walk and guess what that's exactly what she did she stood up she walked Jairus came to Jesus to heal his daughter. And in the end though, his faith was tested. He was pushed into those extra hard places that said, you got to wait a minute to get your healing. You got to hold on with me and choose me. Don't listen to the other stuff because guess what? I've got you and I'm going to make this right. And lo and behold, by choosing Jesus, that's exactly what happened. Because if he had listened to the faith and his fear and his doubt, and he had just gone home, he would have lost his daughter. But instead, she's very much alive. So choose me. You come to this place where your worst fear is realized. And so somewhere right around 2016, 2017, Grace Community Church was at that place. We were at our worst moment. We had, yeah, we were in a bad place. Let's just put it that way. And I would say we were limping along, but, and I'm going to put the but in here, because again, there's a switch. What was left of Grace Community Church in 2017 was a core group of people who loved each other, who loved Jesus and who loved this little church. That's what was here still. And because of that and because of their want and desire, you begin to see us come out of the wait and you begin to see where, hey, Jesus has been with us the whole time, but where he starts to make his move. Because in 2017, I believe too, we had been pruned. We have our core group of people. We had surrendered it all. We were no longer the big cool church on the block. We were just this little peeled back tiny church who, mind you, was selling off stuff all the time. We were, that's where we were. We were in a bad place, but we gave it up. We quit trying to fix it. We quit being afraid all the time. And somewhere in there, something happened. We were gifted this building as much as we all have things to say about this building currently. In 2017, this building, oh, it was beautiful because it took our expenses and cut them dramatically. We could now focus on getting ourselves out of this horrible debt that we were in. Now, we still don't have a lead pastor at this point in time. And so our leadership teams, our elders are coming together saying it's probably time that we find somebody to lead this little pack of ragamuffins, for lack of a better word. And so the search begins. Now, the other thing just to mention is for an experienced lead pastor, we did not have a pretty resume and we didn't look really good. It's not someplace that they were just clawing to become a part of. So we had to step out in faith and take a chance. And that's what we did. Because remember, we're coming from a place of faith and not fear. And we hired a 36-year-old associate pastor who had zero experience leading a church. And his name is Nate, by the way. But the thing was, is that Jesus knew that Nate was the person for this church. And so he put him in place. And from that point in time on, we continued to walk this path of faith. You watched as our teams got healthier. You watched as we were no longer Grace Community Church and we became Grace Raleigh. We began to find our identity and who it was that God was calling us to be as a community, as a body, and then who we are to be to those around us in our community. You began to see the health. Our partners are all here and part of what it is that's happening inside of Grace. And guess what? These decisions are being made now. We have no more debt. We've actually purchased land. We've gone ahead and we've designed a future building. We have asked you as partners to come alongside us and where we believe that it is that God is leading us in our next step of obedience. And that's to build this building. And I stand before you today and I honestly believe that we as a church stand in our Jairus moment. That moment where God is looking at us and holding us by the face and saying, do not be afraid, just believe. This is the path that I have called Grace Community, Grace Community, sorry. This is the path I have called Grace Raleigh to take. Step out in faith with me. I've got you. And so I ask, what are you as the partners of grace believing for our sweet little church? Are you believing that our next step of obedience is to build this building? And if you truly believe that that is your next step of obedience, what are you doing to walk in it? And so as we close this morning, I will also say to you too, what fears do you have that keep you from all that God has for you? What is it that holds you back from realizing what it is that he has in store for you, the plan that he has as you take your next step of obedience? What do you need to lay at his feet? And what do you need to do to clear your brain, your mind of the fears and the doubts and choose him? Will you pray with me? Lord Jesus, thank you. Thank you for these examples of people who trust you, who love you, who choose you. Thank you for the example that they give us of doing it scared. Those next steps of obedience are not easy. The next steps of obedience are scary. But we know that you've got us. If you brought us here, you're going to walk with us through it. So thank you for loving us. Thank you for being faithful to us. And thank you for loving this little church that you call Grace Raleigh. And Lord, we love you. And it's in your name we pray. Amen.

All right, well, good morning, everybody. Thanks for being here. My name is Nate. I get to be one of the pastors here, and if I hadn't got a chance to meet you yet, I would love to do that. Thanks for coming on Time Change Sunday. I know that we're all, our wagons are dragging a little bit, but that's all right. Before I just launch into the sermon, I do have a bit of a retraction to print. Last week, I maliciously and falsely accused my wife, Jen, of smoking a cigar in college. We did not agree on the story, and that afternoon, she texted her friend Carla, her roommate, and I know Carla very well, and she asked her to confirm her side of the story, and Carla said, no, I was there. You pretended and gave it to me, and I'm the one that smoked it. It was a black and mild. It was disgusting. So I was wrong. Jen, as usual, was right. She's at home now with a sick kid. So anyways, if you see her, let her know that her character has been restored. One thing that is true that Jen and I do, and I bet that you've had the same conversation with your spouse if you have one of those or you're a good friend or something like that but I don't know about y'all but for us every time the a Powerball lottery gets up but like a ridiculous amount like 330 million dollars or something like that like so much it gets so big that your mom starts buying lottery tickets just in case it's God's will that she have that money to use it for his kingdom. You know, that's how we Christians justify the lottery ticket purchases. But every time we see that, when we'll see the billboard or mention it or something like that, then what conversation do we immediately have? Right, nodding heads. What would we do if we won the money, right? So then we get to have that fun conversation, and it goes, by now we've had it enough times that it goes in some very predictable ways. Out of the gates, you know, you have to sweep aside, get rid of the practicalities. Like, don't tell me how you're going to invest it. That's boring. Don't be a nerd. Like, what's the fun stuff you're going to do? What are the extravagances that you're going to allow yourself? And it always starts small with us because we're trying to be humble because we're trying to be humble people. We're not going to be ostentatious. But the one extravagance I always lead with, this one's consistent for me, is a private chef. I want a private chef to just live at my house and make me food all the time. That's what I would like. Jen will eventually admit that she wants to get a condo in Manhattan. And those are our extravagances. And then I'll be like, and maybe, you know, I mean, the car's got a lot of miles on it. So maybe I need a new car. Maybe you need a top of the line Honda Odyssey. You know. You guys know that's what I want. Maybe for travel, we should just buy into a private jet, like a share, not our own, but maybe we'll just share. We try to stay humble, and then as we have the conversation, it just gets more and more absurd until we're the Kardashians, so then you just laugh and whatever. But those are, that's fun to do. That's a fun game to play. What would life be like if? And then you imagine this life that maybe you would have one day, and I don't know what you guys would do if you hit it big, but it's fun to play that game of imagining what life could be like if. But one of the things that we all do, even if you're not ridiculous like Jen and I and daydream about what it would be like to win the Powerball, what I am convinced of is that every person in this room, every person who can hear my voice, does have plans and hopes and dreams for their life that are real, that are substantive, that actually matter to you because they're actually attainable. This is so ubiquitous in our culture that we have a name for it. It's the American dream. People move to this country in pursuit of what you have access to because we live in a place where we are allowed to dream our own dreams, we are allowed to make our own plans, and we are allowed to begin to pursue those. And so everybody here has hopes and plans and dreams for their life. And those are less funny. Because I'm probably never going to have a private chef. Probably not. I might be able to hire one for ad night to make me stay. I'm probably not going to ever have a private chef. I'm not going to mourn that. We'll probably never have a condo in Manhattan. I'm not going to mourn the loss of that potential condo, but I do have hopes and dreams in my life that if they don't come to fruition, I will mourn that. If I don't get to do Lily's wedding, that's going to make me sad. If I don't get to meet my grandchildren, that's going to make me sad. If I'm not still married to Jen in 30 years, that's going to make me sad. So we all have hopes and dreams that we marshal our resources around, that we pursue with our life, that we intend to execute. And some of us are less detailed than others. Like I've got a good friend in Chicago, and they were as meticulous as when they were first married before they had kids, they moved to Chicago and she had an opportunity to get her master's at Northwestern, get her MBA there, which is an expensive prospect. And they basically said, hey, if we do this, and we're going to borrow that money, then we are committed to both of us having full-time jobs and using our resources to pay for a nanny. That's just how our family is going to be. And they said okay, and they executed that plan and they've done that. And now they have three kids and a two bedroom condo in Chicago off of Lake Michigan. And their plan now is in 2026 or maybe 2027, they're going to move to the Atlanta suburbs to be closer to his family, to be closer to his mom. So they've got their plans mapped out like that. And maybe that's how you do your plans, and maybe it's not. But you all have them. You all have, if you have kids, you have hopes and dreams for your kids. It could be as minuscule as the kind of job you want them to have. It could be as broad as the kind of person that you want them to be. If you're married, you have hopes and dreams for that. If you have a career, you have hopes and dreams for that. But we all do this. As soon as we kind of come online somewhere in adolescence and realize that one day our life is going to be our own, we begin to imagine how we want to build it. Nobody in this space doesn't have plans and hopes and dreams for themselves, however broad or humble they might be. And I bring this up because the passage that we're looking at today in Mark chapter 8, if you have a Bible, you can turn to Mark chapter 8 verses 34 through 37 is where we're going to be focused. As we continue to move through Mark, we arrive this morning at one of the most challenging teachings in scripture. It's this incredibly high bar of demand that Jesus sets on our life. And it is one that we may not even be familiar with. It's one that I am certain that we don't consider enough, that we don't come back to enough, that we haven't wrestled with enough. It is one of the most impossibly high bars that Jesus sets in his ministry. And what we see in that bar is this, is that God has a dream for you, and it's better than yours. You have hopes and dreams for your life. You have things that you want to see come to fruition. Maybe you want to have a long marriage. Maybe you want to have a good career. Maybe you want to be a generous person. Maybe you want to be a good friend and a good member of the community. Maybe you want to see your kids flourish. These are all good things. Very few of you, if any, have terrible dreams for your life where you want to go do evil things. I'd like to be like Vladimir Putin. I don't think anybody's doing that. We all have good things that we want to see come to fruition. But here's what I'm telling you, and here's what I want you to begin to think about this morning. God has different plans for you, and they're better than yours. All right? With that preamble, let's look at, bless you, let's look at what Jesus has to say as he's teaching the crowds and the disciples, and let's look at what this high bar is for us. Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said, whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me and for the gospel will save it. What good is it for someone to gain the whole world yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? Here's what Jesus says. He gathers the crowd around him. He gathers the disciples around him. And he says, if anybody wants to be my disciple, they must take up their cross and follow me. Now there's a lot about that statement that we need to understand. As kind of an aside to the flow of the sermon to where I want to go, I do want to stop here. And I want to look at that word that Jesus chose to use. Whoever wants to be my disciple must take up their cross and follow me. Whoever wants to be my disciple must do what I'm about to ask you to do. And one of the things that we've done in Christianity, in Christian culture and church world, is we've taken the terms Christian and disciple and we've made them mean two different things. We've said that a Christian is someone who's got their foot in the door. A Christian is someone who's going to go to heaven. They are saved. They are in right standing before God. They believe God is their father and Jesus is their savior. The way we talk about what it means to become a Christian at grace is to simply believe that Jesus is who he says he is. He did what he said he did, and he's going to do what he says he's going to do. And once we believe those things, we are ushered into the kingdom of God as a Christian. And then at some point in our life, if we want to begin to take our faith very seriously, then we can become a black belt Christian, which is a disciple. Yeah? Like, Christianity is like discipleship light. We've separated those words. We've made them two different things. I'm a Christian. Are you a disciple of Christ? I don't know. That's pretty serious. Let's not get crazy. And listen, you know I'm right about that. And here's the thing. That is not how Jesus defined those terms. Jesus never used the word Christian. They were known as the followers of the way for years after his life. We made up Christian. Jesus called them disciples. And that's what he told the disciples to do. The end of his life, the great commission, go into all the world and make disciples. Right. Not Christians. Not converts. We think Christians are converts and disciples are people who take it seriously and try to make more converts. And to Jesus, he says, no. You are all the way in being a disciple of mine, following me, becoming more like me in character, doing the work that I do, becoming a kingdom builder, building the gospel, reaching people with the gospel. You are all the way in, or you're not following me. But we've made it possible to be a Christian who's not a disciple. And I just want to point out this morning, it's not the point of the sermon, but I just wanted to stop here and point out, that's not how Jesus defined it. So if in our heads we separate those terms, then we don't understand them the way that Jesus does. And we should have to decide if we think we're right or he's right. But he says, if you want to be my disciple, you must take up your cross and follow me. Meaning, you must take up your life, you must take up your sacrifice, you must take everything that you have and walk it to Calvary with me. And sacrifice your life with me for the sake of the gospel. The way we say it here is you must become a kingdom builder. Quit trying to build your own kingdom. Start getting on board with building God's kingdom by growing it in breadth and depth. He says, if you want to be my disciple, it's not about getting in the door and becoming a convert. It's about taking up your cross, taking up your life, taking up everything you thought you wanted, laying it down at the altar and following me and letting me do with your life what I would like to do with it. And he says it. It's very clear. It's explicit in the text. For the sake of the gospel. And he even uses the term, whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves, take up their cross, and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it. But whoever loses their life for me will save it. Jim Elliott, famous missionary, I believe in the 40s and the 50s and the 1900s, died trying to reach some Ecuadorian tribal people who were cannibals. And he said, prior to that trip in his writings, that he is no fool who gives up that which he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose. It is absolutely in keeping with this teaching of Christ. If you call yourself my disciple, here's the tax. You give up your life. You give up, listen to me, you give up your hopes and your dreams and your plans. You give up the career you thought you wanted. You give up the goals for your children that you created. You give up who you thought you were going to be. You give up your finances and your time and your treasure. And you set those aside. And you go, Jesus, what would you have me do with these things? Are these the things that you want in my life? Or do you want now to choose a different life for me? But that's why I say that this is an incredibly high bar. Because he says, listen, if you want in, if you want in, let me tell you what the tax is. Let me tell you what it's going to cost you. It's so funny. When I was growing up, I used to hear this phrase all the time. Salvation's a free gift. Can't be earned, can't be deserved. And I'd always go like, yeah, but it does cost you something. Jesus tells you. It costs you your life. That American dream that you have, you've got to give that up. That's what Jesus is demanding. In fact, what we see from this text is Jesus insists that we trust his dream more than our own. Jesus in this text insists, you've got to trust my hopes and dreams and plans for your life more than you trust your own. That's the tax. You've got to give up your own. You've got to let me replace my vision for you for your vision for you, and you've got to go. And you've got to get to work sharing the gospel for the sake of the gospel. That's what he asks us to do. And this is a remarkably high bar, particularly for those of us who come into faith as adults, or even for those of us who begin to take our faith seriously as adults, because the toothpaste is out of the tube. We're already down the road. We got a mortgage. We got things that we're responsible for. We already have our life ordered, and so it's a really difficult thing to hand our life plans over to Jesus and go, if you want to change them, if you want me to do something else, if you want us to go somewhere else, to live somewhere else, if you want to change the way I raise my kids and what our values are, if you want to change the way I'm married, whatever you want to do, do it. I trust you. And in a sense, give up our plans for our future. That's a really tough ask. I sat with someone this week, a dear friend who in the last several years, her marriage has just become really, really bad. Just really awful and hard. And it's to a point now where it's very clear that the best thing for her and for her children are to not be in the house with him. Because that's not a good environment. And that's a really tough decision to make. And as I sat with her this week, she said, you know what? I'm not even really sad about him. I fell out of love with him years ago. But I'm grieving the life I thought I was going to have. And finally admitting that I'm not going to have it. She sat in the playroom and watched her children divide up the stuffed animals, deciding which ones were going to mommy's house and which ones were going to daddy's house. That was not her plan. That was not what she wanted to experience. When she walked down that aisle, her hopes and dreams and plans for her life were to be with him for the rest of their life, to see their grandkids and go on trips with them together. That was their hopes and dreams. And so now she's in the middle of mourning what she thought she was going to have. And so it's, I'm acknowledging, it's a big ask, midstream in life, to hand over everything that you had planned for yourself to Jesus. And so you do with this what you want. And if that causes you to mourn something you thought you wanted or you thought you needed or you had marshaled your resources around pursuing, then so be it. But Jesus says, go ahead and mourn. Get it over with. Because we've got work to do. And it's here that I want to say this. As we listen as adults and we try to process this and think through it and how to integrate it into our lives, what do we do with it if we want to apply the truth? As I mentioned a little bit ago, the reality of it is that the older you are, the more challenging this instruction becomes. Until you retire, then it's like, whatever you want, Jesus, I've got all the freedom. At least that's how I assume retirement is. I don't know. But the further down the road you are, the harder this gets to be obedient to. You know, I think about Zach and Haley over here. I just did their wedding in the fall. They don't look at them. They don't know anything about anything. They don't know nothing. But they're also at the cusp of life and can respond to this in a way that has more freedom than the way that others of us can respond to it. So we acknowledge that. Here's what else that implies because we have a lot of parents in the room who are still raising children. You can get ahead of this. You can get ahead of them creating their own hopes and dreams for themselves. You can start to raise them, reminding them all the time, God has plans for you. God made you on purpose. God's gifted you to do things in his kingdom. And it's my sacred duty as your parent to guide you to those. I remind you guys all the time of the verse in Ephesians, Ephesians 2.10. We are God's workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works that we might walk in them. My most sacred duty, I believe, as a father, is to tell Lily and to tell John as often as they will listen, you are Christ's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, that you might walk in them. My sacred duty is to help you see those good works and walk in them. It sounds counterintuitive, especially for Americans. I don't want John and Lily to create their own dreams for their lives. I want their biggest dream for their life to be to walk with God. Hold me close and teach me to abide. We just sang it. I want their biggest goal for their life to be to abide in Christ. And that one day, when they get to heaven, to hear, well done, good and faithful servant. That's what I want for them. I'm really not very interested in them creating their own dreams. Because God has bigger ones for them that are better than theirs. And this makes sense, doesn't it? So I'll get there in a second. But to the parents, you raising your kids, you have a chance to get ahead of it now and to help them become young adults who know my life is not my own and God has plans for it and his plans are better than my plans so I'm going to follow them anyways. We can get ahead of this, guys, for the rest of us, as we try to integrate these things into our life. The problem is, that's exactly what we tend to do, isn't it? That's exactly what we tend to do. This isn't revolutionary information. It might be packaged in a way that we haven't thought about in a while, but it's not revolutionary information that Jesus asked for our life and wants us to live our life according to his plans. But when we hear that, trying to be good Christians who we don't yet know if we're disciples, we try to integrate Jesus' plans into the nooks and crannies of our plans, right? We try to take the life that we're already living and the path that we already chose. And then we try to work Jesus into those things so that being obedient to his word and choosing his dreams over ours doesn't cause very much pain. So we don't have to mourn a possible future. So we don't have to change a lot of things. So we don't get too uncomfortable. We just do a tiny little course correction and we feel better about ourselves because now we're giving Jesus this part of our life when that's not what he asks for. Take up your cross. Deny yourself. Follow me. If you give up your life for my sake, you will save it. If you don't, you will lose it. And here's the thing that I was thinking about as I was thinking through this. As we think about the idea of choosing our plans for our life or choosing Jesus' plans for our life. Your plans, I know this is a little whatever. So go with me or don't. But my hunch is your plans are just an amalgamation of who you were in childhood and who your parents were and who your friends were when you were in high school and college and you were developing your values. Your plans are just a hodgepodge of stuff that you receive from the people around you. If you had good parents, you wanted to be like them. If you had bad parents, you didn't want to be like them. And so that's at the correction of your life. If you had good friends in high school and college that had decent values, they pointed you in one direction. If you had bad friends, they pointed you in another direction. Very few of you ever sat down with a legal pad and research and wrote out a plan for your life in a thoughtful, meaningful way. Your plans are an accident, man. That's my point. Whatever you think you chose you wanted to intend, no, you didn't. No, you didn't. You stumbled into it by accident of birth and culture. But we cling so tightly to the plans and the dreams that we have for our life that were made by flawed, finite brains. When what Jesus is offering to us are plans that were made by a perfect, divine brain that sees everything all at once. And yet we still stubbornly and ignorantly choose our own. C.S. Lewis once said that the kingdom of God is like you're a child in your backyard. He said making mud pies, which I guess is what you did for fun in like the 1910s, is you're like, mom, I'm going to go play with mud. Okay, be safe. He said it's like being offered to go on a one-year holiday, on a one-year vacation around the world to see all the greatest sights in the world, and instead we choose to sit in the backyard and play with mud. Here's the thing about these plans that Jesus has for you, about his desire for you to spend your life building his kingdom, not your own. And here's why it's okay for him to ask him to give up everything you thought you wanted for what he wants, because they're better than yours. And Jesus is not a tyrant. He's not a dictator. He's not interested in making your life worse at all. In fact, we have verse after verse in Scripture that assures us that Jesus actually wants us to have a good life. One of my favorite verses that's in my office, I use it a lot, it brings me comfort a lot, is John 10.10. The thief comes only to steal and to kill and to destroy, but I have come, Christ says. I have come that you might have life and have it to the full. Jesus wants you to, literally, he wants you to have the best life possible. Now here's the deal. He probably doesn't define best life like you currently do, but his definition is better than yours. A couple more, and then I'm going to make a point and we'll wrap up. David writes in two different places in Psalms. In one place he writes, better is one day in your courts than thousands elsewhere. And then in Psalm 1611 he says, at your right hand, God, there are pleasures forevermore. In your presence there is fullness of joy. Does this sound like a God who's interested in making you miserable? Does this sound like a God that doesn't have better plans for you than you do? Your plans are an accident. His are intentional and divine. Lastly, in Scripture, I often point out to you the Ephesians prayer, Ephesians 3, 14 through 19. We did a whole series on it last January. I pointed it out at the onset of this year. It's my prayer for grace and my prayer for you. And the heart of the prayer is that everything that happens in your life would conspire to bring you closer to God. That's the prayer. But I always stop when we go through it at 19 because you have to stop somewhere. But if you keep reading and you get to 20 and 21, you see one of the most amazing, encouraging little passages in scripture. It says this, it says, now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine according to his power that is at work within us. To him be the glory in the church and in Jesus Christ throughout all generations forever and ever. Amen. He finishes up that segment of the letter by offering the prayer to God, by him who is able to do immeasurably more than we could ask or imagine. I know it's a high bar for Jesus to set, to say, I want all of your hopes and dreams. I want all of your plans. I want you to sit down and prayerfully consider with your career if that's what I want you to be doing. Prayerfully consider with your finances, is that really how I want you to invest in those? Is that really the future that I have dictated to you, or is that what you want? Jesus asked that we sit down and we think through these very difficult things that the answers could potentially make us deeply uncomfortable. But here's what we know. He's going to hand you better plans. He's going to hand you better dreams. And here's what I know experientially. I would never ever pretend to be someone who's always living life according to Jesus' plan. I would never ever pretend to do that. And you may be thinking, you're a pastor. You've committed your life to Jesus' plan. Not really. I became a pastor because I wanted people to respect me and think I was cool. That's why I became a pastor. Just full disclosure, that came out in counseling like six years ago. I know that that's true. God has sanctified those motives. Now I don't care what you think. That's not true either. But God has sanctified those motives and helped me not do this for myself and for the sake of others. So I know what it is to not live according to God's plan. I know it very well. But I've been blessed in my life that there have been pockets where I did accept his plan over mine and I did live his plan for me rather than my own plans and I can tell you without reservation or hesitation or exception when I am living my life according to God's plan my life life is richer, fuller, better, more lovely, more wonderful, more alive. Without exception, my friendships get deeper. Without exception, my marriage is better. Without exception, I find it easier to get up and I'm more motivated to do the things that God has put in front of me that day. Without exception, I hold my children tighter. Without exception, I cry more happy tears and experience a fullness of life that never comes when I live by my plans. And I don't want to paint a falsely rosy picture here. You can live according to God's plans and experience pain. You can mess up and pursue your own plans that weren't God's plans, and as a result, you're in a ditch somewhere. As a result, your life got sidelined. As a result, you were in the middle of great pain and hardship. But make no mistake about it, that's probably not because you were ardently following God's plan for your life. It's probably because you're following your own and he's trying to get your attention. But those of you who have lived your life according to God's plans for even a season cannot deny that that season in your life was one of the best ones. And that those seasons are some of the best ones. And there will be pain in the midst of living according to God's plan. We do not judge the raindrops of tragedy because we're believers. But, on balance, if you invest your life following God's plan for you rather than your own, if you take up your cross and follow Jesus and give up your life for the sake of the kingdom, I promise you, you will live a better life if you do it. I promise you it will be more rich and more full and more lovely. I promise you it will be immeasurably more than you can ask or imagine for yourself. I promise you. So as we finish this simple thought, and then I'll pray. Jesus is asking for your life. Do you trust him with it? Do you trust him with it? Let's pray. Father, you are lovely and good and wonderful and we are grateful. God, it is a scary thing to hand our hopes and dreams over to anyone else outside of our control. But Father, I pray that we would trust you with ours. Help us trust you with our children, with our careers, with our financial goals, with our friendships, with all the things we want to accomplish, all the things we want to acquire, and all the things we want to accumulate, God. I pray that we would trust you with those things. Give us the strength and the courage to ask hard questions and to receive hard answers and replace our cruddy hopes and dreams with your incredible ones and help us be people who live our lives for you. In Jesus' name, amen.

All right, well, good morning, everybody. My name is Nate. I get to be one of the pastors here. If you were here this morning, thank you so much for braving the elements and coming. You had to really, really want it. If you're home watching in your warm, dry sweatpants, nobody likes you today. You made a selfish choice. But we're glad you're joining us online. This is the second part of our series called Mark's Jesus, where we're walking through the Gospel of Mark all the way up through Easter. So for several more weeks, we're going to be entrenched in the Gospel of Mark, and we're calling it Mark's Jesus because it's a view of Jesus through the lens of Mark, which comes through the lens of Peter. And I realized in the fall that we have not spent time together in the gospel of Mark. And so it's high time we do that. And so what I would say to you as a disclaimer is the way that I laid out the series is just to go through the series or go through the gospel of Mark and kind of make a note. Anytime I got to a passage that I thought, yeah, I want to teach that. Yes, I think that could help grace. Yes, that's something that we need to talk about or discuss or bring up or whatever it is. And so I just kind of went through and haphazardly just kind of wrote things down and then planned out the 12 or 13 weeks or however long it is. So what I would say is I'm not going to cover every chapter of Mark. I'm not going to cover every story. I'm not going to encapsulate the whole book in this series and in what we're trying to do. So I would highly encourage you, if you're going to be a part of Grace for this whole series, grab the reading plan. Kyle, I assume the reading plan is going through Mark, yes? Twice. Okay, two times. There you go. Kyle does our reading plan. It's back there on the information table outside the doors. Grab that reading plan and go through Mark with us. Allow God to speak to you from the gospel of Mark in ways other than what is dictated by the whims of Nate. All right. Let God walk you through that book as we go through it as well. As we approach the text this morning, I'm reminded of a story that happened about 10 years ago, I think maybe even a little bit before that. This is back when I lived in Georgia outside of Atlanta, and one night, I'm somewhere in the threes, 3.30 or so, Jen jostles me awake, and I can tell that it's a little bit urgent, and she says, I can't remember if she said, your sister's on the phone, or I just talked to your sister, but for some reason, my sister had called in the middle of the night, and I looked at my phone, and I had several missed calls from my mom, and at the time, my phone was on silent, so it didn't wake me up. So somehow it's relayed to me from my sister that mom has fallen. She's home by herself. She's fallen going to the restroom in the middle of the night and she's called the ambulance and somebody needs to get over there and I lived really close. So I scramble downstairs. I get in my car and I go see my mom. And when I get there, she's on her bedroom floor. My brother-in-law's there, but he doesn't really know what to do. She's on her bedroom floor laying on her back with a gash over her eye. And her glasses kind of shattered. And there's a big old split in her forehead. And there's blood everywhere. And it was a big, scary mess. It's not the way you want to see your mom. And she had gotten up to use the restroom in the middle of the night and came back and had lost consciousness. And when she did, she fell against the wall and hit a doorframe with her forehead. And there was a big pool of blood there where she had hit. And then she managed to get over to the bed and call the ambulance and start calling family. And this is not something that was expected. My mom would have been 53, 54 at the time, which is not when you expect people to start falling in the middle of the night. I don't know what the age is that you get to where when your family gets the call that mom and dad fell in the middle of the night, they're like, yeah, that probably checks out. It's probably Doug's age. Whatever Doug, whatever you are, Doug, that's probably what it is, where Molly would be like, yeah, that makes sense. Walker, go check on dad. But it's not 54, all right? That's not it. And so it was a little bit unusual. And I'm with mom. The paramedics get there, and I'm trying to walk them through some stuff. And they get her loaded into the ambulance, and I decide to follow. I'm going to the hospital, following the ambulance to the hospital. And I'm praying the whole time. I'm thinking about her. I'm thinking about, like, let's not let the scarring be bad. Let's get her stitched up. Let's let her be okay. Let's not let her have a big, gruesome scar over her eye because dudes think scars are cool. And my understanding is that women are not as inclined towards scars as we are. So she probably didn't want that on her forehead. So I'm worried about that. And I'm just worried about in general that she's going to be okay. And so I'm praying for her. And we get there and they put her in the ER. And I'm standing next to the table holding her hand. And a nurse comes in and starts stitching her up. And there was a few different times where I had to kind of like look down or sit down because I was about to lose consciousness too. I would make a terrible, terrible nurse. I cannot do that. I can't handle it. But we got through it. And the whole time, I'm just kind of, God, let this go quick. Let somebody get to her quickly. Let us not have to wait for a long time. Let's let her be taken care of. I'm talking to my dad. He's out of town. He's on his way back now in the middle of the night and all those things. And so they get her stitched up, and she's fine. She's lucid. She was good the whole time. But they said, we want to try to figure out what was going on. So they asked her, like, what was happening? And she said, well, I was just having severe abdominal pain, and I think I passed out just because of the pain coming back from the restroom. And so they ran some tests, and they found out that she, is it pancreatitis? Is that what it is? When your pancreas is going to burst? What is it? Appendicitis, thanks. Yeah, she had appendicitis. Pancreatitis is a different thing. She might have that, I don't know. But at that time, she had appendicitis, and her appendix was going to burst, and it was causing a great deal of pain. And because she was at the hospital, they were able to get in there and remove it and get that out. And it was actually turned out to be a good thing that this is what happened. I've got a good buddy who goes here to the church, and some of y'all know him, know his story as well. A few years ago, his appendix burst, and they didn't know about it until it ate away at his intestines. And then he ended up in the hospital, and his wife was told he might have a bag for the rest of his life. That's bad news. And what he's had to walk through for the last two years is way worse than a gash in the head. I guarantee you he would trade a few weeks of recovering from a gash over his eye for the last two years that he's had with his guts and his organs because his appendix did burst. And so this whole time when I'm going to mom and I'm seeing her on the ground and I'm looking at her and I start to pray for her and I start to be concerned with her, in my mind, her most urgent need is this gash over her eye. Her most urgent need is to get that stitched up, to get that healed up, to get that knot scarred up, and to move on with her life. That's her most urgent need is we're going to the hospital. That's the thing I want to get addressed the most. As we're there and I'm holding her hand, that's what I want to get done the most is let's get this thing stitched up. What I did not know is that there was something far more urgent going on with her that I couldn't see and that I wasn't aware of. And if I'd have known that, I would have been praying that that got healed up. But because I didn't know that, if you somehow made me aware that mom was up in the middle of the night and that she was experiencing some pain trying to get back to her bed and that she was about to pass out, I would have prayed, God, don't let her pass out. Let her make it to her bed. But what she needed to do is pass out to go to the hospital so she didn't wake up with a burst appendix. God was actually, I believe, moving in that moment to get her where she needed to be because she was home alone and too stubborn to call the hospital and get there on her own. And it could have been a very different story had that fall not happened. And I bring that up because I think we see a similar dynamic in this story in Mark chapter 2. Mark chapter 2 is home of what I believe to be the most audacious ask for a miracle in the whole Bible. And when I say that, I'm just going to let you guys in on this because it's driving me nuts. I said that when we were going through the walkthrough. I said, hey, I was telling Laura who's running the slides, hey, I'm going to talk about the most audacious ask that's ever been made about yada, yada, yada. And then Greg Roberg, the keyboardist, said afterwards, he goes, did you say bodacious ask? And I said, no, audacious. And he goes, oh, because all I could think was good gracious ask bodacious. So if you are from a generation that knows why that's funny, laugh it up. All right. If you don't actually hear, let's make this easier. This side of the room, ask this side of the room after the service. They've got you. All right? So now that's messing with me. And I was like, Greg, you couldn't tell me that after the sermon. You had to mess me up before I get up there and preach. But in this chapter, we have, I'm going to call it a bold ask for a miracle. And you probably know what it is, but I think we have some lessons that we can learn from this. So what I want to do is kind of go through it a few verses at a time and talk about what's happening and see what we can learn from this person getting healed by Jesus. Starting innaum, the people heard that he had come home. They gathered in such large numbers that there was no room left, not even outside the door. And he preached the word to them. Some men came, bringing them a paralyzed man carried by four of them. Okay, so here's what's going on. I read one verse extra. I just want to set the scene. Jesus is going back home to Capernaum. We know that Jesus is from Nazareth, but at some point in his adult life, probably being trained in the temple there in Capernaum, he made Capernaum his home. Capernaum is on the banks of the Sea of Galilee. So if you go to Israel and you think about the type of topography and landscape that you would expect to see there, what you'd probably expect is kind of a desert, rocky, mountainous terrain. And in the southern part of Israel, that's absolutely the case. But in northern Israel, it's very lush. And there surrounding Galilee are green hills and mountains and trees and vegetation. And it's really, really pretty. And so nestled into this, along with the villages all around the Sea of Galilee, is Capernaum. It's a prominent fishing village in north Israel. And that's where Jesus is. And he goes home, it says, to preach to the crowds. And it's standing room only. People hear that Jesus is coming back, and they start clamoring in. There's no room anywhere. It's like the opposite of this room this morning. There's no room anywhere at all. Everyone's coming in. They're standing out in the lobby. They're standing outside. They're standing on the roof. They're standing on the front porch. They're all craning their neck to try to hear this Jesus teach. There's no space at all. Everyone's clamoring in towards Christ. And in the midst of this, we see this happen probably a couple of hundred. And these guys show up with their friend. Four of them are carrying him on a mat, ostensibly a cot, one on each corner. And they're trying to carry him to Jesus to ask Jesus to heal him because he's paralyzed. And I don't know if they were disorganized, hopeful miracle receivers and just got there late. I don't know if they found out late after everybody else. But for whatever reason, when they get there, they can't get to Christ and Christ can't see them. So they start figuring out what to do. And it's always been wild to me that they decided, this version says to dig a hole in the roof. Some versions say to cut a hole in the roof. I could do, I thought about doing some research on what ancient Israel, Israelite roofs were made out of. So I could give you the correct way that this happened, but I decided that would be pretty useless because it doesn't matter to help us understand the story. So they're going through the roof, digging through it, cutting through it, whatever it is they're doing. And I've always wondered this. I don't know if you guys have wondered this, those of you who have heard the story, like what was it like in the room? Like if I'm just in here and then all of a sudden, like a saw just shows up, you know, like I'm not going to keep teaching. I'm going to stand. I'm going to be, let's get out. Let's evacuate. All of us, all of us leave right away. This is how it happens. Let's go. But like, is there debris coming down? Is rubble involved? Like, how long does Jesus just keep going? And then you have to imagine this is not a short process. They didn't have power tools. It wasn't a quick process by which they cut a hole large enough for a grown man to be lowered by some sort of elaborate pulley system down in front of Christ. But at some point or another, his friends get up on the roof with a body on a cot, and then they cut the hole in the roof with some tools that they probably had to find. I doubt any of them brought shovels and saws. And then through a great effort, lower this person down into the middle of an assembly where all the focus was on them. That is a lot of effort to get your friend healed. And in their mind, what was their friend's most urgent need? That Jesus would help him walk. That Jesus would heal him physically. They got up that morning when they heard Jesus was coming. And they said, Jesus can heal. Let's take our friend. Let's take him to Jesus and let's let Jesus heal him. He will, if we can get to him. I just know that he will. This is the most important thing we can do with our day. And they marshaled all of their resources to get that man up on that roof, down in front of Christ, so that Christ could help him walk again, could perform a miracle and heal him physically. And instead, when that man lands in front of Christ, Jesus says, because of your faith, you may rise and walk. No, because of your faith, son, your sins are forgiven. And now we're going to read the verses that follow in a second. But what we see in the narrative is that it takes a beat between your sins are forgiven and rise and walk. And I want us to put ourselves in the position of the men who had just lowered him down. And they hear Jesus say, because of your faith, and then their hearts leap in their chest, yes, rise and walk. Because of your faith, your sins are forgiven. What? That's not the need, Jesus. That's not what he needs. He needs to walk. That's not what we're asking for. That's not what we're praying for. That's not what got us up this morning. That's not what got us up onto that roof. That's not what we were praying for, hoping for when we were digging. That's not what we were implying when we lowered him down, that you would forgive him of his sins. That's not what we wanted, Jesus. And in that moment, whether it lasted a couple of seconds or a couple of minutes, in that moment, I think we stand united with those men who lowered their friend in front of Christ because to be a Christian for any length of time is to pray a prayer that you believe is urgent about a thing that matters very much to you only to hear Jesus not give you the answer that you were expecting. No, Jesus, that's not it. This is far more urgent. Again, if I'm somehow able to pray for my mom, don't let her fall. Let her get back to her bed. And Jesus lets her fall anyways. In that moment, I feel betrayed by Christ. No, that's not her need. Her need isn't a gash in her head so she has to go to the hospital. That's not what she needs, God. This is more urgent. Why don't you see what I see? Why don't you understand what I understand? Why don't you do what I think you ought to do? In this moment, we can share in their disillusionment in Christ because he didn't do what they thought he was going to do, what they thought he should do, and what they had been hoping and praying that he would do. And it reminds me of one of my most favorite moments in Scripture. Early in Jesus' ministry, we find the story in the Gospel of John. When John the Baptist is arrested, and he's being held as a prisoner in Herod's dungeon, in Herod's palace. And he has a pretty good sense that he's going to die down there some way or another. And so he gets one of his disciples, John had disciples, and he sends one to Christ. And he says, will you ask Christ if he is the coming one? And this is a, this is a Ram as it's a hint or a clue. It's an allusion to an old Testament text in Isaiah, I believe maybe 35 or 43, where Isaiah prophesied that the one who is to come, the coming one, when he arrives, the deaf will hear, the lame will walk, the blind will see, and the prisoners will be set free. So John sends his disciple to Christ to say, hey, are you the coming one? Are you the one who is to come? Because if you are, then I should be set free from prison and not die here. So are you the Messiah? Are you the guy? Or should I keep waiting? And Jesus tells the disciple, go back to John and tell him that the lame do walk, the blind do see, the deaf do hear, and the prisoners will be set free, but not you, John. And then Jesus says this, and I think it's an amazing, amazing line. Blessed are those who do not fall away on account of me. What that means is, blessed are those who get disappointed by me because I don't do what they think I'm supposed to do. Because I don't do what they think they want me to do. Because I don't do what they think I need to do. And yet they choose to follow me anyways. Do you see that? Blessed are those who do not fall away on a part of me. Blessed are those who are disappointed in me because I do not meet their expectations in the way that they think I should and still choose me anyways despite not understanding. This is the moment that these men are having. This is the moment that we've had. When we're sitting in the middle of a situation and there is a very clear and urgent need and Jesus doesn't meet it and God doesn't answer it that way and we're thinking, no, don't forgive him of his sins. Help him walk, man. That's what's needed. Let's do that instead. We've all been in a place where we've been a little bit disillusioned with Christ. That's why it's important, I think, to continue the story. If we pick it up in verse 6, here's what happens. Now, some of the teachers of the law were sitting there thinking to themselves, why does this fellow talk like that? He's blaspheming. Who can forgive sins but God alone? Immediately, Jesus knew in his spirit that this was what they were thinking in their hearts, and he said to them, why are you thinking these things? Which is easier, to say to this paralyzed man, your sins are forgiven, or to say, get up, take your mat, and walk? As soon as he says your sins are forgiven, the Pharisees and the teachers of the law begin to conspire. And they go, who does this guy think he is? Only God can forgive sins. Who is this guy? What is he doing? This is blasphemous. And Jesus knows their thoughts. And so he looks at them very pointedly. And he says, why are you upset? What's harder to say? Your sins are forgiven or rise and walk? Which one's more difficult? If I say your sins are forgiven, nothing happens. You can't see anything happen. You don't know if that worked or if it didn't. But if I say rise and walk and he doesn't, then you know that I am impotent. He stops them and he says, what do you really think is the most urgent thing here? What do you really think is most important? Why are you thinking this way? The harder thing to do is to heal them, not what I just did. To you is to heal them. And physically, not what I just did. But I'm telling you that the harder thing to do is to forgive him of his sins, and it actually carries weight and merit and warrant. So then he continues in verse 10. But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins. So he said to the man, I tell you, get up, take your mat, and go home. He got up, took his mat, and walked out in full view of them all. This amazed everyone, and they praised God, saying, We have never seen anything like this. I think it's really important to understand that Jesus didn't heal this man of his paralyzation until after he had been challenged about forgiving his sins. And he healed him to prove that he had the authority to forgive him. Do you see that? He said, which one's more difficult? It's harder. It's easier for me to just say, I forgive your sins because nothing happens. You don't know if it worked. But if I say rise and walk and then he doesn't, then I'm up a creek. Then I'm exposed. So here, tell you what, because of their faith and because I want you to know that I'm the son of man and I have the power and the authority to forgive sins. And that phrase son of man is from the book of Daniel. It's a quote where he's claiming to be the Messiah, the divine son of God. And he says, because I'm the son of man, I have the authority to do this. Rise and walk and go home. And the paralyzed guy wakes up, rolls up his mat and walks out in full view of everyone that he just got carried past on the way in. And the people saw it, and they were amazed, and they praised God, and the implication is they believed and the kingdom was grown. But look at me. Jesus healed that man to prove that he had the authority to forgive sins. He did not heal that man for the sake of healing that man. And I think that many of us probably think that that's what Jesus should have set himself about doing. Do you ever wonder why Jesus didn't go around ancient Israel with all of these maladies and all of these sicknesses and early infant death and low life expectancy rate and probably terrible cavity issues and all the different maladies that would afflict a low income population like this, why didn't Jesus just set up shop in Bethany just north of Jerusalem and let the whole country come and just heal, heal, heal, heal all day long? I have a feeling that if we were to walk around with Christ and watch how he spent his days, that we in our piety would have a real issue with his priorities. I'll bet that if we were to follow Jesus around and saw how few people he healed that asked him, and saw how few miracles he performed when he could have. And he didn't offer an explanation to us that satisfied us. I bet, and I'd be the first one in line gossiping with the rest of the disciples, I bet we would disapprove of how Jesus spent his time. Because sometimes things to us are far more urgent than they are to him. What Jesus knew is, if I heal this man of his sins, I give him an eternity. And in that eternity, he can walk and hop and skip and run in his new heavenly body. And this life is a mist or a vapor. This suffering compared to eternity is nothing. It doesn't matter. It's inconsequential. And so if you said, if you asked his friends, would you rather him help your friend walk or would you rather him forgive your friend's sins? The implication is that they would have said, no, make him walk. We'll figure the sin out thing later. And Jesus is like, no, you don't understand. That's not the most important thing here. And so what I see in this story and what I want us to reflect on and admit is we are not always right about what is most urgent. We are not in our finite human, always right about what is most urgent. And we have, all of us, prayed prayers where the issue was simple. Heal them, protect them, make this thing go through, make this thing fall through. Heal that marriage, heal that relationship, heal this, heal that, God be in this, God be in that, where we see the most urgent need, protect my children from these things, protect my husband from those things, protect my wife from that pain. We see these things that feel so urgent to us and we lower them down in front of Christ and we go, don't you see what I see? And then Jesus answers those prayers in that urgency in a way that we would not expect and that we would not choose and that we would not ask for. And then we get disillusioned with Christ because he didn't meet our expectations. We don't know what's most urgent at all times. If I could have protected my mom from that fall and saved the gash on her head, I would have done it. And in so doing, I would have made the decision that ruptured her appendix and put her in much more grave danger than that fall. Because I don't always see what's most urgent. It's why I'm so grateful that Romans chapter 8 and verse 26 tells us this, that in the same way the Spirit helps us in our weakness, for we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans or groanings too deep for words. We are taught in Romans, the greatest chapter, Romans 8, that the Holy Spirit, we don't know what to pray for as we ought because we don't know what the most urgent need is. And so the Holy Spirit intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. The Holy Spirit is literally in the throne room of God as we pray, saying this is what Harris prayed, Lord, but this is what he really wants. This is his heart, but this is what he needs. It tells us that Jesus is our high priest and that he sits at the right hand of the Father and he intercedes for us. This is what Anna prayed. This is what she really needs and wants, God. This is what's going to be best for her. Don't give her what she asked for that's going to be worse. And listen to me. It makes me so grateful that there is a Holy Spirit in heaven who hears my prayers and translates them correctly to the Father. I am so grateful that I have a Holy Spirit interceding on behalf of Lily and John, my children. That I have a Holy Spirit interceding on behalf of Jen. How many things would I choose as a father or as a husband to protect them from? How many things would I choose to fix? How many things would I choose to just wave a wand and make go away? Because clearly it's the most urgent need in their life. If you're a parent and you've ever watched your child go through pain, and listen, Lily's nine, so the kind of pain we're talking about is pretty minimal. Some of you have watched your kids struggle to have children or deal with addictions or deal with failures or deal with hardships or deal with being alone. You've watched your children walk through real pain. And if you could wave a wand because it's their most urgent need, you would wish that away. But aren't you glad that the Holy Spirit is interceding for you at the throne of the Father to make sure that your prayers are the right prayers when they get to God's ears. I know that I am. Because I don't want my wisdom and my viewpoint to dictate what happens to my children and to my church and to my friends and to my wife. I want to entrust that to a Jesus that has a different plan than me, that sees things more urgently than I do, and that correctly prioritizes what me and the people around me really need. We have a hard time with this, and I know many, many people, me included, and close friends, who have entered into a rocky time in their faith because Jesus didn't see an urgent need that they did. Because Jesus didn't think something was as urgent as they did. Because Jesus didn't answer the prayer the way that they had hoped he would. And because of that disappointment and disillusionment in Christ, they've moved sometimes away from Jesus, sometimes further away from Jesus, sometimes they've allowed that disappointment to drive a wedge between them and Jesus. And I just want to submit to you that if God isn't answering your prayers the way you'd like, maybe he has better plans. Some of you have petitioned God hard for things, and you've not gotten the answer you wanted. Is it possible that he sees a more urgent need than you? If I think about the things that my parents would have prayed away for me as I was growing up and some of the different struggles that I had, I'm so grateful now that there was a Holy Spirit interceding that allowed those things to go on because they made me into who I am. Now this doesn't work, and I'll be the first to admit, this doesn't make sense of every unanswered prayers. There's some prayers in my life, there's some things that were urgent in my life that I took to Christ and I took it to him for years and I saw it as very urgent and he could have healed if he wanted, he could have prevented if he wanted, and he didn't. And it still doesn't make any sense to me that he didn't. I still don't see the better good that came out of that. So this idea doesn't cover every unanswered prayer that we'll encounter in our life. But for a lot of them, if not most of them, maybe Jesus isn't answering our prayer the way we want because he's got a better plan. And if we'll just wait and see, one day we'll see it. I'll close with this story I'm a great time in there. I Had a friend growing up named Jenny pain and As adults we ended up in the same church and she was a small group leader for me and and she told me this story one time and a testimony video that she did. And I did not know this growing up. But Jenny was a little girl, I don't know how old, four or five years old, and she had two brothers. And she found out that her mom was pregnant. And so she immediately, in the way that earnest children do, she immediately got on her knees and started praying every day for a baby sister. She desperately wanted a baby sister. And she even went as far as to ask for a baby sister named Jessica. That's what she wanted specifically. I would like for that child to stop making that noise. Pray with me about that. Thank you, Ms. Erin. Don't we have a hallway czar? This is unbelievable. I can power through. I can power through normally. This is great. Yeah, go bang on the wall there, Haley. All right, we're going to agree to be grown-ups and tune that out. Jenny prayed for a baby sister named Jessica. And however many months after those prayers began, her mom had a baby. That was a little boy named Johnny. And Jenny was devastated. It took her several years to believe in the power of prayer again. Her parents could not convince her to pray because she had prayed, and she got John, not Jessica. John grew up, got to the age where you go to college, went to college, started making some poor choices with poor friends. I mean low-quality friends. I don't mean they were low socioeconomically. And he washed out of college. And those bad decisions caused him to join a construction crew down in Florida where he continued to kind of let his life not reach its potential by continuing to make poor choices. And at some point or another, he met a girl. And that girl really wanted him to go to church. And through her influence and her being a little bit different cut of cloth than the girls that normally talk to him, he started to get his life back together. He started to pursue God and make wise choices. And before you know it, Johnny's a respectable adult. He's engaged. And Jenny finds herself sitting in the wedding party of her new little sister named Jessica a few months after that. God had a plan. He knew that Johnny was going to need that Jessica more than Jenny did. And so even her most urgent prayers didn't get answered the way she wanted because God saw something different. And I don't know what you're praying for. I don't know what you're lowering down in front of Jesus. I don't know what you see as most urgent in the lives of the people around you. But I do know that Jesus may not see it the way you do. And because of that, you should be grateful. You should be grateful that you're trusting things to the wisdom of Christ and not yours. And in time, he will answer those prayers in the way that is best for us because we know that for those who love him and are called according to his purpose, all things work together for good. On this side of eternity or on that side, we know. We can trust a Jesus who sees things differently than us. Keep praying your prayers. Keep your faith. Blessed are those who do not fall away on account of him. Let's pray. Father, we thank you for your servant Mark who wrote these stories down for us. We thank you for a Jesus who sees us and who knows us. God, we thank you for a Holy Spirit that intercedes for us and groanings too deep for words. And that we are entrusted to their wisdom and not our own. God, if we find ourselves in a situation where we're praying and we feel like something is so urgent and we know exactly what you should do and we know exactly how you should address it and we can't stand to see this pain and we can't stand to see this hardship and God, don't you care too and can't you not stand to see it? God, give us patience for your perspective. Give us a faith in your sense of urgency and let us entrust ourselves and those we love the most to you and watch your plan unfold in their life. Give us faith, God. In Jesus' name, amen.