Well, good morning. My name is Nate. I'm one of the pastors here. It's good to see you. I missed you last week. People were asking where I was. I was in the mountains of North Georgia taking naps is where I was, and it was a lot of fun. And in my stead, Kyle, our student pastor, gave his first sermon at Grace, and it was a great job. He did phenomenally. But one of the things as I listened back and I heard the story of how the weekend went without me that I was so happy to hear really and truly was that both services, when he got up to give his first sermon ever, you guys cheered for him. Which, first of all, that hurts a little bit. But second, what a cool place. What a great thing that says about us as a church that we're so excited for this guy that we're going to applaud him before he even says anything. There can't be a more supportive place to do ministry than Grace. So it just made me so proud of my church to be a part of this place. I just thought it was really, really great and evident of your heart. The other thing I want to say before I get started, and I never do this, I don't think sermons are times for announcements, but this is such an important announcement to me that I wanted it to go out online on our podcast and on the video and things like that so that people catching up during the week can catch this too. This Friday night, March the 15th, is Grace's big night out, okay? It's two hours at Compass Rose Brewery from 6.30 to 8.30. There's gonna be childcare here for kids five and younger. Everybody else is welcome at Compass Rose. There's games for the kids. There's going to be a food truck. You can bring your own food if you want to. Steve and the band are going to do some live music. It's going to be a super fun time to just hang out, and I really want it to be awesome. So that's up there with my number because we have a graphic that's a square that I can just send to you, and then you can text that out to your friends because we're hoping that you'll invite your friends. This is an easy invite. I think a lot of us have friends that maybe we'd love to see get more involved in church, but maybe they kind of don't want to be involved with church right now. Maybe there's a little stink on it for them or whatever, but maybe if they come hang out with us on Friday and just get to talk and laugh and meet people, they'll realize that we're not a bunch of weirdies, and they'll join us later, okay? So if you want that graphic to use to invite your friends, text me and I'll get it out to you or text one of the elders. They have it too. Okay, but we hope that you'll join us on Friday and that you'll bring some folks. It's going to be a really good time. I hope this is something we get to do repetitively. Okay, this is part five of our series in John. We're going to go through John until the week after Easter. I've been really loving getting to dive into the book of John with you. And if you haven't noticed, we're missing a lot of things. We didn't even do the most famous verse in John, John 3.16. We just skipped right over it because I'm probably a terrible pastor. But there's a reading plan, so hopefully you guys have grabbed that and you're reading along with us again so that you're getting your perspective and your eyes and your mind and your heart on Jesus and not just getting my perspective as we move through the Gospel of John. This week we arrive at what is probably the most famous or one of the most famous miracles in the Bible. It's in all four Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and it's one that all of you have heard of. Even if you're here and you're not a believer, this is your first time in church in a long time or ever, I bet you've heard of this miracle, the feeding of the 5,000, right? We know this miracle. And really, that's an erroneous title because Scripture tells us that there was 5,000 men, which means there were women and children in addition to those 5,000. We don't know how many. You can do the math on your own. I'm not going to chance a guest on stage as a pastor and be eternally responsible for that. So I'll let you make irresponsible guesses in your head. But there was more than 5,000 people there. And what's going on when this happens is ancient Israel in the time of Christ was what we would really think of as a third world country. And Jesus is up in northern Israel around the Sea of Galilee. Jerusalem was in southern Israel and northern Israel is really at this point like the countryside. It's rural Israel. So in the sticks of a country that is poor, Jesus is going through his day. He's going through his ministry there. And there are thousands of people following him. Again, we don't know exactly how many, but there are thousands of people following Jesus. In the beginning of John chapter 6, if you have a Bible, you can turn there. The beginning of John chapter 6 tells us that they were following him. The throngs were following Jesus because of the miraculous things that he was doing, because he was casting demons out of people, because he was healing folks, and they wanted to go see. Either they had something that they needed Jesus to take care of, or they just wanted to see this person that many people were beginning to call the Messiah. And so thousands of people had flocked to Jesus. And it says that Jesus looked on the crowds with compassion. He was moved by them and for them. Because here are 5,000 men in the middle of the day with their families, in a culture and in a time where these people woke up and they genuinely did not know where their next meal was coming from. They were very poor, more poor than any of us can imagine. And so Jesus is moved with compassion at the crowds of people and he decides that he's going to feed them. And so there's a young boy walking by who's got five small fish and three loaves of bread and he gets the disciples to ask for the meal from the boy and Jesus starts to break the bread and the fish and he starts to put it in these baskets. And the disciples carry the baskets to the different groups of people and they hand it out to whoever needs. It was an ancient all-you-can-eat buffet. It's like the first version of the Golden Corral. And they're just going around handing things out to people. Until at the end, there was baskets left over. Jesus just kept making fish and bread until everyone had what they needed, right? And then at the end of that, the people did this thing that everybody was trying to do to Jesus his whole life. We don't really think about this or notice this, but it's a drum I'm trying to beat as we go through the gospel of John. They clamored to him to make him king. They wanted to take him down south to Jerusalem and put him on the throne. They wanted to form a revolution around Jesus because the prophecies in ancient Israel, the prophecies in the Old Testament say that when the Messiah arrives, he will be the king of kings and the lord of lords and the prince of peace, and that he will sit on the throne of David and that he will rule forever. And now we know, with the benefit of hindsight, that Jesus did not come to establish a physical earthly kingdom. We know that he came to establish an eternal heavenly kingdom. But they didn't know that. They thought that he came to literally establish a kingdom that he was going to, at the time, overthrow Roman rule, rise Israel up to prominence, that they were going to be the world superpower, and Jesus was going to be the king, and they were going to be his followers. And so they said, this is the guy, look what he's doing. And they clamored to him to go make him king. And Jesus, knowing that wasn't the point, knowing that it wasn't yet time to put the wheels in motion of his crucifixion, fades away and goes into the mountains. And we see Jesus do this a lot in his ministry. There's a big event, a big thing that he does, something that exhausts him, and then he goes and he fades away and he goes to pray and spend some time with the Father to get away from the crowds. It makes me wonder on a human level if Jesus wasn't an introvert who just needed a little bit of a break after he dealt with everybody. But another thing you'll notice about Jesus, if you'll read through the Gospels on your own, is he had this unfailing patience with people. Can you imagine what it would be to be Jesus, to feed 5,000 people and then still have people like, hey, can you do this? Can you do this? Can you do this? And you're like, did you see the miracle I did? Can a dude not take a nap? Like, how tired did he have to be? How stressed did he have to be? How fatigued did he have to be? Yet he continued to unfailingly love people. Over and over again, he offers them grace through the Gospels. And that's one of, to me, that's one of the pieces of Jesus that we see when we pay attention. It's just his unfailing love for others. So he goes up to the mountainside to pray, and he tells the disciples, y'all go ahead and go across the Sea of Galilee to a city called Capernaum and I'll meet you there, okay? I'm gonna come out there too. Y'all go ahead and go across. So the disciples, the 12 of them, get on a boat and they begin to go across the Sea of Galilee, which wasn't really a sea, it's a lake, but you can't see across it, so it's called the Sea of Galilee. I don't know why that's the policy, but that's what it is. And so they're going across. And in the middle of the night, Jesus walks on water where we have this other really famous miracle. And the other gospels record it and give us a little bit more detail about it and the interaction with Peter. And he was like a ghost. And at first they were afraid. But John in his old age, as he's writing his gospel, he doesn't do that. It's just a couple of verses. He's just like, we were going across the water and then we looked and Jesus was walking. And then he got in boat with us, and then we were there. It's like John was like, it was just, you know, just Jesus stuff. It was just classic Jesus, you know, just walking across the water and getting in the boat, and then they're there, right? So the next morning, the people, the crowds, wake up. They had camped out wherever they were going to camp out there on the hillside. They wake up, and they look around, and they don't see Jesus. And then they notice that there's a boat gone and none of his disciples are there. So they put two and two together and it says they go across the water. And I don't think that all the, however many thousands of people there were there, all got in their boats at once and went across the Sea of Galilee like some Greek fleet assaulting Troy. Like I don't think it was all of them. I think it was probably a portion of them. So a portion of them get in the boats and they follow Jesus across the water. And it makes me wonder, for us, who here thinks that if they were in those crowds, that they would have been one of the ones to get in the boat and cross the water? Who here would call yourself a follower of Jesus? My guess is, because you're church people, and you know the right answer is, oh, I'd definitely get in the boat, then that's probably your answer. There might be some, a few, who are here just kind of checking things out with the bravery to be like, I don't know if I'm getting in the boat yet. And I really applaud the intellectual honesty of that answer. But most of us are probably going to say that we're in the boat. I'm going to get in the boat and I'm going to go across. I'm going to follow Jesus. I'm not going to let him get away. And so that's what they do. They get in the boat and they go across and they were Jesus followers. They follow him across the Sea of Galilee. And then they go and they find him and they ask him, what are you doing? Where'd you go? Look, this is what it says in the text. John chapter 6, verse 25, it says, When they found him on the other side of the sea, they said to him, Rabbi, when did you come here? They said, Jesus, what are you doing? Where did you go? Like, we're trying to keep up with you. We're trying to follow you. Where did you go? What's the deal? Why are you disappearing? And Jesus' response to me is searingly convicting. And it stands as a conviction not only to those people then, but to us now and all Jesus followers throughout all time. Anybody who would ever consider themselves a follower of Jesus, his response to me is incredibly convicting. He says this, Jesus answered them when they said, where'd you go? What are you doing? We're trying to follow you and you're hiding from us. Where are you? Jesus says this, truly, truly, I say to you, you are seeking me not because you saw signs, but because you ate your fill of the loaves. Do not labor for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the son of man will give you. For on morning they wake up. Jesus isn't around. They follow him. They track him down. They go to him and they go, Rabbi, which means teacher, which means we're acknowledging you as an authority. Where'd you go? We're trying to follow you. You're running away from us. We're trying to keep up. We want to follow you, Jesus. Why'd you do that? And Jesus looks at a poor and downtrodden people who, listen to me, they need bread, okay? They need the physical bread that he provided. They're not like us. Any of us in this room can go to any restaurant we want to right after church. You can get the meat sweats within the next two hours. We all have the means to do this, okay? I ate out two times yesterday because I'm fabulously wealthy. We can all do this, right? We don't know what it is to be hungry, none of us. They knew. They knew what hunger was. And Jesus knew that they were hungry. And they are the exact type of people that we would look at our Jesus and expect them to do something about feeding them. Expect him to be moved with compassion and give them more bread because that's what they need. But instead of doing that, instead of giving them what they really do genuinely need, he looks at him and he says, you're only here because I gave you bread. You followed me across the water for the wrong reasons. You shouldn't labor for the things that are temporary. You should labor for the things that are eternal. That's quite the statement by Jesus. You're following me for the wrong reasons. Your motives are impure. And it makes me wonder, if you are somebody who would say that you would get in the boat and you would follow Jesus across the water, yes, I am a Jesus follower. I want to be where he is. When Jesus says this, that you're following me for the wrong reasons, it makes me wonder, what are the reasons that you are following Jesus? Are we following Jesus for the right reasons? Or is it possible that our motives are mixed? As I thought about it for me, and I thought about it for the people that I've known through the years, I think that it's entirely possible that we get some mixed motives for following our Savior. I think it's one thing to come to Him for certain reasons, but our relationship with Him cannot exist motivated by those same things. And I think that as I thought about it, I think a lot of the reasons that we sometimes follow Jesus that maybe are for the wrong reasons can be summed up in this way, that often we follow Jesus for control or for status or for gain. I think it's entirely possible, church people, that we have followed Jesus in our life for some sense of control, for some sense of status, or in hopes of some sort of gain. Here's what I mean. Sometimes we go to Jesus because the world seems just completely out of sorts. These things are happening that we cannot control, that we do not understand, and to be able to see them through a framework of God's sovereignty brings a sense of peace and understanding to us that makes us feel comfortable. And so it's how we process the world because we're trying to bring a sense of control to the uncontrollable in a more pernicious way. I think that we have what I think of as a proverbial faith. In the book of Proverbs, it was a book of wisdom written by Solomon. It basically is summed up by saying, if you do things like this, then you are wise and things will go well for you. And if you do things like this, then you are foolish and things will not go well for you. And so sometimes we approach the Bible as this self-help book that says, if I do these kinds of things, even if I don't fully believe, then life is going to go better for me. And it's a way that we try to exert control over the uncontrollable. Do you see? The problem with this is the book of Job exists as a contrast to Proverbs that tells us even when we're doing all the right things, sometimes it's still going to go bad. But when we follow Jesus for control, it's that kind of proverbial faith where we try to, by following all the rules and doing all the right things, bring about outcomes in our life that are uncontrollable, that are favorable, right? Or sometimes we follow Jesus for status. Listen to me, church people. We are guilty of this. I, this is not hyperbole, more than anyone. Those of you who have been in church for a while, for any number of years, has there ever been a season of your life where you followed Jesus, where you've put on the mask of Christianity, where you've played the game of faith because of the status that it brought you? Just me? Has anyone ever studied harder for a Bible study and done the work in a Bible study because when you got there, you wanted to have the best answers, not because you were really interested in the content? Have any of you ever been guilty when you're asked to pray in front of other people of suddenly using a different voice with a different vocabulary? Because these and nows and saying God over and over again is somehow holy? Oh God, if you would just have mercy on us, God, in your favor, God, I just lift this person up to you, God. Don't talk like that. When we hear ourselves starting to pray like that, that's Christianity for status. That's Christianity because of what it gives us in the community, because it offers us opportunities of respect in the church, because when we act that way and we live out this faith, sometimes people will ask us to do things that are honorable requests. Have you ever walked through a season of life where your faith was more about the status that it brought you than it was about Jesus? Where your main reason for not walking away from the faith is a relational fallout that it would cost you? That's faith for status. Or we follow Jesus for gain. This is what's commonly referred to as a health and wealth gospel. It is a gospel or the prosperity gospel. I hate it. It's a lie from Satan and it's evil. And what it tells us is if we go to Jesus, that Jesus wants to bless us. He wants us to have this incredible life. He wants us to be happy now in the material. And so he will make you healthy and he will make you wealthy. And if you don't have health and if you don't have wealth and you just don't have strong enough faith and you need to have better faith. And there are whole churches built on this model, on the promise that if you really are living Christianity out the right way, then you will be blessed and you will be healthy and you will be wealthy. And I don't know if you ever paid attention to it, but churches that teach this model don't tend to be filled with wealthy people because it preys on the poor and on the unhealthy and promises them things that are not true. And Jesus knows that these reasons, these temporary reasons for following him, whether they be control or gain or status, are not the right reasons and that eventually they will wreck our faith. That's why he gives the warning there. Don't labor for the temporary, labor for the eternal because when we follow Jesus for the wrong reasons, eventually it wrecks our faith. Eventually it shipwrecks the faith that we have. I'll tell you how I know this is true. Several years ago, I had a meeting with a couple at my old church named Alan and Sonny. I love Alan and Sonny. They went on after this meeting that I had with them, not because of me, because of the Holy Spirit work in them. I didn't tell them anything useful, I don't think. But they went on, they became small group leaders. They were wonderful in the church. They launched other small group leaders. They're still there leading people to faith. They're just phenomenal warriors for God. But I got an email one day, and it was from them, and they said, hey, you know, we've been coming to the church for a little bit. We accepted Christ as our Savior about four months ago, and there's just some stuff happening in our life. We just have some questions. We'd like to talk to a pastor. I said, all right, sure. You get to talk to 29-year-old Nate. Congratulations. I'm going to answer all the questions for you. And so I meet with them. And they said, hey, you know, they started telling me about their life. And they had had a hard life. He was a handyman. She helped them out. They were workaday people. They were really, really great and wonderful folks. But it was their second marriage. They both had adult children and grandchildren, and then they had their own children together. And they had all the craziness that that brings about, plus a life that was lived before that without faith and the remnants of that that are going on in their life. And so Alan and Sonny had a really hard life. And what they said was, you know, before we got saved, we came to God to experience peace. And after we got saved, we've been praying about these situations in our life. We've been hoping for them. We've been lifting them up for God. We've been trying to do the right things. But man, I got to tell you, those situations aren't really getting much better. And some of them are getting worse. And we just need to know, did we do it wrong? Like, are we actually saved? Did we not pray the prayer right? Is there something that I need to believe that I don't believe? Is there some sin that I don't know about that I need to figure out? Because this isn't really working the way that we thought it would work. Do you hear the lie there? Somewhere along the way, they became convinced that to follow Jesus meant that there was going to be a relief from the trials in their life, that they were going to be what we would call blessed, and that those things would begin to go away because now I'm following Jesus, and now I'm following the rules, and God is going to do these things for me. He's going to make these situations better. And I had to sit them down and be like, guys, no one promised that to you. You didn't do it right. You did it wrong. You did it exactly right. The problem is your expectations of God because he doesn't promise Christians that we won't experience trials. In fact, in the New Testament, do you know what we're promised? We're promised suffering and persecution. So buckle up, pal. That's what we're promised. It's going to be hard, and you're going to have to endure. But in the midst of that, and I can go through character after character in the Bible, Christian after Christian throughout history, that with loving God with all their heart and suffering mightily. Because God doesn't promise us a relief to our circumstances. He doesn't promise us health or wealth or status or control or any of those things. What he promises us is his presence, that he will be with us, that he will walk through our trials with us, that we never have to experience those alone, that our life is never hopeless, that our life is never lonely, because God is an ever-present force that is there with us, loving us and affirming us. And now, as you go through trials, it's not that you don't have to go through them, it's that you have the peace of Christ as you do, and you have the hope of heaven, so that Paul can say that even though we endure suffering for what he calls a little while on this earth, we look forward to a new day where there is no suffering. That's the promise of faith and of Christianity. But when we let people believe that that promise comes now and that prosperity comes now, then after we get saved, we begin to look around and go, did I do this wrong? And eventually we either feel like we messed it up or our God is letting us down, but either way, I don't want anything to do with this faith. And it shipwrecks our faith. When we follow God for control, for a sense of control and sense of our universe, and then things happen that feel like they are out of our control, we feel like either we've done it wrong or God is weak. When we follow God for status, when we eventually get the status that we want, when we fake it enough so that everyone around us believes that we're this Christian that we try to pretend to be, then what we realize is we're living our life in a prison of expectations and hypocrisy that we can't get out of until we allow our entire identity to crumble because it was never authentic to begin with. When we follow Jesus for the wrong reasons, it wrecks our faith. So that begs the question that hopefully you're asking and that they asked. Okay, what are the right reasons? What's the right reason to follow Jesus? And this is what they ask in verse 28. They said to him, what must we do to be doing the works of God? Okay, what's the right reason? What do we have to do to work for the eternal things, not the temporary? What do we have to do? And Jesus' answer is great. Jesus answered them, this is the work of God that you believe in him who he has sent. Do you remember back, those of you who were here to the first week of the series? And we look at the way that John introduces Jesus. In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, the Word was God. And we said that the fundamental question in life is, was Jesus real? And do you believe that He is who He says He is? It's a fundamental question in life. That question makes all the difference in the world. Do we believe that Jesus was who he says he was? And then they say, what's the right reason to follow you? What's the right motive? How do we labor for the eternal? And Jesus says, trust me that I am who I say I am. Believe that I actually am the one that God sent. You want to know the right reason to follow Jesus? Jesus. You want to know what should properly motivate you to get in those boats and go across the sea and find him? Him. It should literally be that we get in the boats and we cross the sea and we go to Jesus and we go, Jesus, where'd you go? And he goes, you're only here for my bread. And we go, no, I don't care about the bread. I just want you. You're only here for the status and what I do. No, I don't care about the status. Make me low. Make me do something silly. Make me an usher, the least of all church volunteers. Make me do that. And I will still follow you. You're only here for the control. No, let stuff happen. Let the world spin out of control around me. I'm here for you, Jesus. That should be the motive. Jesus is the only reason to follow Jesus. And this isn't just in this passage. It's all throughout the New Testament. If you continue in the book of John, what you see in John chapter 15 is that there's an instruction from Jesus to abide in him, abide in me and I in you, and you will bear much fruit. And we're going to spend some time on this, but there's a relational aspect to that abiding. There's this idea of knowing Jesus, of pursuing him relationally, of being acquainted intimately with our Savior. In John 17, Jesus prays for you. He prays for all people that would hear of the word through the disciples, which is you. And what he prays for you is that you would be one with him as he and the Father are one, that you would know him, that there is a relational aspect to this. Paul, throughout all of his letters, prays for the church over and over again that they would know God. The author of Hebrews says that if we're going to run the race that we're supposed to run, then we need to do it with our eyes focused on the founder of our faith, which is Jesus. All throughout the New Testament, it tells us that God's desire for us is that we would know him, and that the proper motivation to follow him is simply to know Jesus. That's it. That we would pursue him, that we would love him, that we would want more of Jesus in our life, that when we get across the Sea of Galilee and he says, why'd you come over here? I'm not gonna give you more bread. We go, I don't care, I don't need more bread, I just need you. That's why we follow Jesus. And with that in mind, to help you as you assess, because hopefully if you're paying attention, you're sitting here going, okay, well, am I doing it right? Am I following Jesus for the right reasons? What are my motives? How mixed are they? And all of us have mixed motives. I've got like a two-question diagnostic for you so that you can try to suss out in yourself and in your own heart, how are we doing with keeping pure motives as we follow Jesus? Okay, so two sneaky questions that are gonna make you feel terrible about yourself, but they're really good questions. The first one is this. When you pray for yourself and others, for what do you pray? What do you pray for yourself and others? When you pray for yourself, what do you pray for? If you're a person who prays and you get down on your knees and you say, God, I need this, what is it that you pray for? Do you pray that you would close the sale? Do you pray that you would pass the test? Do you pray that you would get the job? Do you pray that you would execute the thing? Do you pray that you would be given the right words in this situation? Do you pray for temporary things? When you pray for people that you love, your kids, your spouse, for your parents, for your friends? What do you pray for them? Do you pray for temporary things? Help them in this situation, heal them of this, rescue them in this, give them wisdom in this. Do you pray for temporary things? Or when you pray for yourself and you pray for others, do you pray that they would simply know God? God, whatever's happening in their life, and this is how Paul prays, whatever's happening in their life, whatever's happening in the church, I pray that it would all conspire to bring them to a knowledge of you. If you look at the prayers in the New Testament, he doesn't pray for circumstances. He doesn't pray for health. He doesn't pray for church growth. All he prays for is that we would know God. So when you pray for other people, do you pray for their circumstances or do you pray that they would know God? Every night we put Lily to bed and every night we try to pray with her. When the elders don't make me meet, then I can be at home with my child. And when I pray for them, when I pray for Lily, Jen and I pray every night, God, help her to know you soon and to love you well. I don't want her to experience a lot of her life without knowing God. Help her to know you soon and love you well. And when I pray for her on my own, I try not to pray for her circumstances. I try not even so much to pray for her health because I know God cares about that. I pray that all the situations, all the things, all the events, all the scarring that I give her will somehow conspire to bring her to a place where she knows God on a level that's more intimate than I've ever known him. When you pray for other people, do you pray for the things that are temporary or do you pray for the eternal, that all the temporary things would conspire that they would know God? That tells us where our motives are in following Jesus. The other one is this. If you're a Christian, one of the things you think about hopefully regularly is heaven. We anticipate heaven. We look forward to heaven. We should be rightly excited about heaven. But I would ask you what most excites you when you think about getting to heaven. That will tell you a lot about why you're following Jesus. Some people are excited to get to heaven because we're curious. I want to see what the pearly gates are. Is that even a thing? Did we make that up? Are there really pearly gates? What do the streets of gold look like? What's the sea of glass? Is St. Peter there greeting me? Or is that only in far sideide cartoons? Like, we want to see these things, right? We're curious about heaven. For many of us, most of us, there's probably a loved one that we can't wait to see. I can't wait to see my Pawpaw again. He's my favorite human that's ever lived. I haven't seen him since I was 19. Pawpaw's never seen me as a pastor. I can't wait to get to heaven and talk to him about it. If I have any gift for teaching or telling a good story, it's from him. He could captivate a room. He's never met Jen. I wish he would have. He hasn't seen Lily. I can't wait to see Papa again. You have your people too. But we ought to be most excited about finally getting to look our Savior in the eyes. What should excite us most about heaven is that we finally get to meet our Heavenly Father and see what He looks like and hear what He sounds like and feel the power of his presence. That should most excite us about heaven. We finally get to look our savior in the eye and we get to hug him and hopefully we get to hear well done, good and faithful servant. That should be the thing that we are most hopeful about with heaven. The rest of the things are good. That's what gives us hope. That's why death has no sting and that hope is good and we should be excited to see our loved ones in heaven one day. We should be excited to explore this place that God created for us, but the thing we should be most excited about is finally getting to see our Jesus and finally getting to meet our God. What would it look like to live a life so devoted to God, so in love with Jesus, that heaven was like the greatest reunion ever? Because we finally got to meet him. That's how we should live our life. People who are excited about that are people who look at Jesus and go, I don't care about your bread. I'm just here for you, man. I hope that you will have the courage to pray and ask God to suss out your motives, to show them to yourself. And then we cannot go about the work of changing our motives on our own. All we can do is offer them up to God and say, God, I know that my motives for following you are impure. I pray that you would purify them. Give me a heart for you. And if you want to pursue this more, I don't do this a lot, but there's a book I would highly recommend to you. It's called With by a guy named Sky Jethani, who's a pastor somewhere in the United States. I forget where. This is, to me, the best book written in the last 10 years. I love it, and I don't really read new books. I think that a book should be in print for like 25 or 30 years before it's worth reading. So I don't really read a lot of new books, but this is a new one that I read, and I love this book. I've never read a book that caused me to stop and put it down and pray and go, God, I'm really sorry for this, more than that book. So if you're a reader, if you're into that kind of thing, I would highly recommend you get this book, and that will help you follow up with making sure that we're following Jesus for the right reasons. For all of us, if you consider yourself a Jesus follower, I hope that you'll have the courage to ask him to purify your motives. And when you do, what you'll find is it works out that all things work out too. Our relationship with Jesus works a little bit like a marriage. In a marriage, there's a bunch of different aspects of a marriage, right? I'm married to Jen, I lucked out, and there's different aspects to our marriage. And we could say, you know what, the most important thing to us is to just be able to have fun together and laugh together. And so we could prioritize that over everything else. And while we're having fun and laughing about everything, we're probably putting some other things off that need some work. And so eventually our marriage is going to get unhealthy. We could prioritize intimacy between one another and say, if we have this, then we'll be healthy, but that will come at the expense of other things. We can prioritize Lily and maybe future kiddos and who knows, but one day everyone's going to be out of the house and we're going to have to look at each other and be like, do we still like each other? Or we could prioritize one another above and beyond everything else in our relationship. And as we grow together, all of those other things will fall into place. If we will prize Jesus above and beyond everything else, all the accoutrements of Christianity, then what we'll find is all those other things, the status and the control and any gain that we might need, Jesus will take care of if we'll just follow him. So let us be a church of people who follow Jesus with a pure heart. Let us be a church of people who get in the boats and follow him across the lake for the right reasons. And let's see what Jesus does with a group of people like that. Let's pray, and then we'll take communion together. Father, we do love you. We do thank you for your son, for sending him for us. God, we thank you that he unites us with you. Lord, I would ask that you would make us courageous. Help us to see the places in our hearts and in our lives and in our walks with you where we are pursuing you for the wrong reasons, for things that really are temporary and not eternal. God, make yourself the prize of our hearts and of our minds and of our lives. Unite us with you. God, I pray that you would work even now to reveal and to begin to purify our motives as we follow you. It's in your son's name we pray. Amen.
All right, sweet. Good morning, everyone. Everyone doing well? Yeah. All right. Yeah. Woo! Yeah, baby! All right. Sweet. Hey, I'm always for being applauded. I've already lost my notes. This is how this is going to go this morning. I'm all for getting applauded before I even have to do anything. So thank you guys so much for that. But as Nate said, I'm Kyle. I'm the student pastor here at Grace. I'm so excited to get to speak to you guys this morning. I'm especially excited, honestly, because I have actually, probably about a month after we decided to do the book of John, I actually did a passage out of John with our students. We did John 4 and our students, and I had read it and kind of studied it a little bit, and something hit me in a different way than I'd ever been hit by this story before. And this is a story I think that many of us know. I know I've heard it tons of times, and it's incredible in itself, but I had realized something a little bit different that I said, you know what? After getting to know our students, I think this would really go well with them. And so I went through it, and it went well. I think that they really enjoyed it, and I really felt like the Lord had placed on my heart, Kyle, I have a bigger audience for you to tell this to as well. And as I realized, I was like, hey, we're doing a John series. I guess this is my moment. And so, you know, it's a pretty big story, and I was like, well, I don't know if Nate's going to let me do something that's that good, you know. But I went to Nate. I was like, Nate, what do you think about this? And he was like, well, you know, let's look at our times. Let's look at the schedule, blah, blah, blah. I didn't know. I didn't know what the schedule was looking like. I kind of had forgotten. I mean, I knew it was first weekend of March, but you know, I didn't know. And so we looked, and wouldn't you know that on the fourth week of John, I'd be able to talk about John 4. And I think that's incredible. And I think that there's something to be said about that. And I don't say that to say, get ready for me to knock your socks off. Get ready for the best sermon you've ever heard. I mean, are those things true? Yeah. No, they're not true. And if you're expecting that, then I'm sorry that it's going to be kind of a bummer. But what I will tell you is that clearly, that the Lord has clearly ordained the ability for me to be able to speak this to you this morning. And so for that, I would say, maybe he has something for you this morning. And so I would ask that you'd open up your ears and open up your hearts to maybe what the Lord has for you this morning. And I'm going to do my best to get out of his way and just let him take over. So anyways, let's jump on in. We're going to be in John 4. I'm going to kind of, we'll talk about it some. I'll read a little bit, you know, the classic one too. And so we're going to be in John 4, and basically at this time, Jesus and his disciples, they've been traveling. They're going from Judea to Galilee, and they stop in this town called Sakaar that's within Samaria. They stop there basically, you know, because they've been walking a long way. Like, I don't like to walk from here to Chipotle with Steve, and that's like right down the road, and I have shoes. So I don't even imagine where they were at, so I'd be stopping a lot. But anyways, they're stopped here, and the disciples go off to try to find some food for them as Jesus goes to the well to get some water. So as he goes, this woman comes up. It says around noontime or the sixth hour, both mean the same thing, that this woman comes and he says, woman, could you give me a drink? And that's where I want to pick up. I want to read her response real quick. Her response in verse 9 says, the Samaritan woman said to him, you are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink? And I think to stop real quick, I want, I think it's very important to understand why she's asking that question. The reason in the cultural background and the cultural significance of that is the fact that Jews and Samaritan did not mix. They didn't mingle. They hated each other. It was an NC State fan and an UNC fan talking to each other. It just didn't happen. There was no love lost between the two people. And so this was a big deal that Jesus had crossed that cultural boundary to talk to this woman. In the same token, as she says, a Jewish man and a Samaritan woman, that not only that, but we know that in this time and in this culture, there was this hierarchy between men and women, that men were considered better, they were considered greater. And in the same respects, in this culture, men and women just didn't randomly, a guy would not go up and just talk to a girl in public, especially one that he didn't know. It just was not considered right. And in the same token, as we go a little bit more in depth into something that we know here, is that when it says that this was at noon when this woman approached, that what this is saying and what in this culture, as they would know and as Jesus would know, that the reason why this woman is coming at noon in the middle of the day when it's completely hot and she's completely alone and by herself, what we know about that, and we know that to mean that probably even within Sychar, even within her own people and in her own community, she was in exile. That she was an outcast. That she was somebody who was probably shamed and looked down on, that she was less than or considered unclean. And we realize, and as we get into this, that this is the truth and that she had basically these public sins. And so because of that, instead of going with the rest of the women early in the morning where it wasn't too hot, where they could get their water and come back and start working and doing their chores, doing the stuff that they had to do for the day, that this woman had to wait until everyone else was gone because she was so shamed. And so, hey, you cannot be here with the rest of the people. You have to come by yourself. You have to go in the heat of the day where, I mean, just to be real, probably not great. It was probably the worst. And not only that, but even just to consider the fact that she had to walk there every day by those people who had shamed her and who hated her. And so we know those three things. And the reason why I think those are important is because Jesus is about to talk about some incredible things. Jesus could give the message he gives this woman in a sermon, and it would do incredibly well. It's awesome. There's so much truth in this. There's so much awesome, great stuff in the love of Christ that he shares in this passage. But instead, he goes up to one woman. He walks past every boundary that has been placed culturally for her. And he says, you know what? I'm talking to you. I'm expressing my love to you because you need to hear it. And I think that that's incredible. And what I think that that shows us is that Jesus' love is boundless, and it's for everyone. It's not just for people who are Jews. It's not just for people who are men or who work in the church, who are in the church. It's for everyone. And I think that that's incredible. And so I want to pick back up, and we're going to start back in 10. Jesus answered her, if you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him, and he would have given you holy water or living water. Sir, the woman said, you have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. I would have given you living water. And she doesn't know who he is. She wasn't able to read the first three books of John before having this conversation. She didn't get to hear these great messages that Nate has posted online from the last three weeks. She doesn't know who this is. So she's like, okay, that sounds great, but you don't have anything to get the water, and the well is deep, my man. And so I just think that's funny, and I think that you should too. But in 11, it says, sir, the woman said, you have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. Ah, we've already read that. Sorry. We're going into, yeah what this living water is, it's this well that will spring up into eternal life, that it's this eternal well, this eternal spring where you never have to go back to the well again because you're forever satisfied, your soul is satisfied. And we understand what he means is God's love and the grace that's shown through Christ to us on this earth. We understand that he is pointing to, I'm going to die in a couple years and I'm going to for you, and then I'm going to be raised to life. And in the same way, if you'll come to me, you can experience this as well. This is incredible. It's awesome stuff. It's him saying, dude, look at this grace. This is offered to you, but she still doesn't get it. Instead, her reply, she said, the woman said to him, sir, give me this water that I won't get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water. And I love that. She doesn't get it, but what she does get is I don't want to have to come back to this well and come back to the memory every day of the fact that I am completely isolated and completely alone. I don't have to walk past people trying my best to not make eye contact because I know they're looking down their noses at me. And this is not the main point of my message, but grace, may we never be that person. May we never be a place that people do not want to come back to because they're afraid of what people will think of them for a mistake that they've made, for a past that they have, for somebody who's sitting next to you right now that undoubtedly may mess up in their life. That we're always a place where you can come and you can experience the love of Christ with open arms coming in, and I don't care what you did yesterday because you're here today and I love you for that. May we be that type of church. Let's keep going. He told her, go, call your husband and come back. I have no husband, she replied. Jesus said to her, you are right when you say you have no husband. The fact is you have five husbands and you've had five husbands and the man you are now with is not your husband. What you have said is quite true. Now, remember this moment because it seems random. It seems weird. It's always been weird for me. I've never really fully understood it, but I just said, you know what? This is a great passage, but this is what we're going to come back to. This is the meat of the passage, but I want to continue because I think it's imperative that we fully understand what Jesus is saying and who he is in this passage, and then we'll come back and see what that means. So let's just keep reading. I don't know if you have. Bibles need bigger print. You know what I'm saying? All right. Sir, the woman said, I can see that you are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem. And so basically what she's trying to deflect, trying to get, you know, like, okay, let's talk about worship for a bit. I can tell that you're a prophet. And so Jesus responds, and it's a little wordy, it's a little hard to understand, but basically what Jesus says is, let me tell you, first of all, the God that us Jews, the God that we worship is the one true God that Jews worship in truth because this God is the God. He is the only one true rightful God. But let me also tell you that a time is coming and a time has now come where not only is this the God of the Jews, but this is the God of all people, that this God created every person and loves every person. So a time is coming that not only will the Jews be able to worship in truth, but all people, Jew or Samaritan, will be able to worship in spirit and in truth. That when I die for you, that you have the ability to have the Holy Spirit inside of you, the same well that we've talked about that continues to come in, that you never have to go back. You're always forever satisfied. You have this eternal value and this eternal soul satisfaction. He says, this is going to be for all people, not just for Jews, but for Samaritans, for you as well. And so she responds and she says, basically she says, sir, I know that a Messiah is coming. I've heard that a Messiah named Christ is coming and that he's going to explain all of this to us. And Jesus says, I, the one you are speaking to, am he. This Messiah that you've heard about, that is coming to save all people, it's me. And I'm here to tell you that you're definitely right. And that I, as the Messiah, am here to love you. Not just to love people, but to love you. And how incredible is that? And how incredible is that truth? And if we just ended it there, it's like, oh my gosh, this is phenomenal. And like, how awesome is it that God is a God who loves everyone? And as I've read this in the past, I'm like, it's so great that not only does God love me, but God loves people who've sinned in drastic ways, people who are completely isolated, somebody who's dealt with adultery and seems like to continue to fall under adultery and probably other sins as well, as this passage alludes to. And I love that until I think, why was it in this passage? Why did he, she just asked for holy water, and then he changes the subject and says, come bring your husband. And so it's like, why, that's random, and that's weird. Why did you say that? And then the next question is, okay, so you did know that she didn't have a husband. You did know that she's had five husbands and that she's with her sixth man. You did know all of this. So then it just seems like she's putting the, that he's putting this lady on blast. Like he's just straight up calling this lady out and being kind of rude. And I hear that and I see that. And it also just doesn't make sense. Why are you doing it? But then as I, as I realized is there's no reason why this would be in here if it didn't completely connect with the rest of it. And what I think is that instead of him simply talking about her sin is that he is trying to get to the heart behind her sin. And when you get to the heart behind sin and when you start to think about it that way, it gets a little bit scarier for us. Because we, I don't, most people in this room have not been married five times and are on their sixth lover or whatever. I don't know. I don't know what the word is for that. Sorry, I said lover. But what I do think is that we all have hearts that are seeking out other things besides God. And what I do know is that what that means is we have sinful hearts. And so what I think is he's pointing at this and he's saying, you have been searching for value and worth and identity in men instead of in me. And so because of that, you're continuing to have to go back to this well, because it's never going to be enough. And so like I said, I know that we don't always have these stories. Like for me, like to give you a little background behind me, since I know I don't know all of you quite as well, and I haven't known all of you guys for such a long time, I think the best way to give you a little background behind me is to tell you a little bit about high school Kyle. High school Kyle was killing it with the braces game, aka had braces, like all of high school, which is great. Like, that's the time you want to have braces is high school. Like, you know, let the least amount of judgmental people around, you know, obviously. But no, I think the easiest way to really tell you is to kind of tell you what senior superlative I got. And yeah, I know, I know. Hold your plot. Like, I know I got a senior superlative. You guys are like, wow, this is a girl. I know, I get it. But chill, you know, I'm just a normal person just like you guys. But I, the senior superlative, so like, for those of you who don't know, or maybe you like forgot for whatever reason, but there's like, you know, most athletic, and there's like, most likely to succeed, most likely to be president, smartest. Like, I'm sure like if at Connor's school was like biggest sweetheart, he would, he had that unlocked, because he is the sweetest of hearts. Shout out to Connor. Everyone go meet him because he's great. But I didn't get any of those ones that were mentioned. I got most involved. And most of you know, it's like, oh, cool. That's great. That's whatever. Like, when you think about what most involved is, it's basically a participation medal of the superlative game. Like, literally, it's the participation trophy of superlative. It's like, Kyle, we know you worked so hard in school, and you did really well, but there's just people who did better. And we know you worked so hard in sports, and you played a lot of sports, but there were just people who were more athletic. And we know that you were, like, vice president of your class, you were in a lot of leadership roles or whatever, but, like, you're not going to be, you're not most likely to be president in this scenario. Like, you know, like, but you tried so hard, and so we have to give you something, and so here's this. And so it's really sweet, and I don't know, maybe my mom asked them if they would make that just to be sweet to me because she felt bad. But that's what I got, and we laugh and we joke about it, but at the same time, like, I did wear that with a lot of pride. I think it adequately described who I was and who I am, that I'm somebody who is very focused on succeeding. And I want to work as hard as I can to do the very best that I can in every scenario. You know, I wanted to make 100 on every single test. And it's funny how it goes. If I made 100, then I'd be, like, nervous about the next test. I'd be excited for a second and be like, oh, my gosh, now I have to make 100 on the single test. And it's funny how it goes. If I made 100, then I'd be nervous about the next test. I'd be excited for a second and be like, oh my gosh, now I have to make 100 on the next one. But then if I didn't make 100, if I made a 98 on the test, I was devastated and it was the end of my day. And I think some of us can relate to that. Some of us can relate to the fact that we so seek out success and the success is where we're driven. It's where our worth and our value comes from, and we don't quite reach it, then we feel like we've completely failed. And it takes, it like just messes with our hearts in the same way I wanted to be the guy who was known as somebody who worked really hard. I wanted coaches to be able to talk about, man, that guy's work ethic is incredible. Or to tell the players, if you had the work ethic, that if everyone had the work ethic that Kyle had, then we'd be a better team. Or I wanted parents and I wanted teachers to say, this is a great kid. This is a kid who loves the Lord. This is a leader. This is someone who I want my son or my daughter to grow up to have a faith like Kyle. And I say these things to say that these are not bad things. And I think so many things in our life are not bad things. But when I recognize where he's calling this woman out, it was the same with me. I sought so heavily to find my value and to find my worth and to even rest my identity into things outside of Christ, into being seen as a good person, into being lifted up. I can remember at Greystone, the last church I was at, I would be so excited to preach God's word. I would be so excited to get to talk to our students and I had something for them. I knew that the Lord was ready to speak through me to do that and I'd get done and I'd I'd feel great about it, and I'd leave, and I'd be super bummed out at home because not enough people said it was good. I didn't realize, and what I finally realized is this tweet by my man Timothy Keller. He's an older man. He's actually not a pastor anymore because he's retired. Incredible preacher, incredible writer, incredible tweeter. So the big three as far as I'm concerned for being a pastor. But he actually tweeted this week, and I was like, how incredible that he did this, and this is perfect. He said, sin is not simply doing bad things. It is also putting good things in the place of God. I realized, and it hit me pretty hard, that there are so many things in my life that I seek after. There's so many things that I try to find worth and value in, and it never is enough. I love the way that David Foster Wallace puts it. He's got a two-part last name, so you know he's smart. I may start doing my middle and my last name. So Kyle Jordan Talbert said this. So if you quote me, say that, because then people will listen to you. beauty and sexual allure, you will always feel guilty. If you worship power, you will always feel weak and afraid. Worship your intellect, and you will always view yourself as stupid and a fraud, always on the verge of being found out. And let me tell you guys that anything you worship outside of God will end up eating you alive. And what is the issue with these things? What is the problem? Why is it? Why can't I find value in these? Because they're earned. Because you have to work as hard as you can to earn them. And anything that you earn, you are always on the verge of also being able to lose them. And there's always someone else. There's always somebody else who doesn't like you. There's always someone who doesn't laugh at your joke. There's always someone who doesn't approve. There's always someone better. There's always someone more successful. There's always more money to be made. When we focus on our success, when we focus on anything else besides God, then we're left coming up short. One scholar says, and I love this, he says, we seek to find our identities horizontally on earth when we have been hardwired to find them vertically in God's love. We've been created to be able to, we've been created to have a relationship with God, our Father. And that is where true eternal value and significance and satisfaction come from. We need to, we need something to change what our heart loves and what it rests in and what it fixes itself on the most. Jesus says he's the only object of worship that won't abuse you because you don't earn his love, his grace, and his favor unlike every other object of worship. And because the point of the gospel and the point of Christ's sacrifice is that the love and the grace that is given to us is given to us as a gift, as free. And so therefore, it is ours. We can't lose it. It's a perfect love and it is a perfect sacrifice that we only receive. And therefore, we're not at risk of losing it. I love, I wrote this one, so whatever. Maybe it's not good. I just kind like, I'm no longer those things. I'm no longer Carl and Suzanne's son. I'm no longer Jay's brother. I'm no longer Connor's coolest friend. I'm Kyle, child of God. And that's in your thing, but I don't want you to write Kyle. You can if you want. That's nice. I want you to write your name because I want you to realize that that is who you are. That's your identity. That's how Christ sees you. That's how the Lord sees you. It's his child. When the creator of the universe would send his son simply for a chance to have a relationship with you, there's not much more value and there's not much more worth you could ever feel than that. And it's a love that keeps coming and it keeps welling up all the way to eternal life. So what does that look like? What does that look like practically? Because it's a cool point. It's an awesome thing. But as my students know, I don't care at all that you understood my message. Like, if you understood my message and you talked about it and then you don't apply it, then who cares? It didn't mean anything. So what does it look like? And I think a very awesome, very cool example is Trevor Lawrence, who was the freshman quarterback at Clemson who won the national championship this year for football. He said he was in a press conference and they basically asked him about his nerves during the game. Ask Asked him like, you know, like, I don't know the exact question, but his response, I love his response. He says, no matter how big the situation is, I know it's not going to define me. It doesn't matter what other people think or say about me because I know what Christ says about me. My identity is in Christ. My value and my worth comes from what Christ says about me. And that was written in stone a long time ago. And so I don't have to spend all of my time worrying about what other people are going to say about me or what other people are thinking or if I am a great quarterback or if I choked or if I'm the best. I'm not worried about that because that's secure. And so does it mean that the Lord took away football because he gave up football in his heart to God? No. The dude won a national championship this year. But can you imagine how much more fun it was for him to play the game that he loves on the biggest stage, not worried about what everyone else thought of him, not trying to find his worth and his value based on the way that he played in that football game? What if that was the way you guys were at work? What if that's the way that we were in our relationships, in our family? What if we weren't solely concerned with having to find our value and having to find our worth by what people thought of us? And instead, we could simply just enjoy it. Enjoy life. Go through life with joy. Going through life knowing that our value and our worth and our souls are completely satisfied. I think it goes even further, honestly. I mean, like, the way that this passage ends, I absolutely love. Like, this woman who was completely isolated from her society and probably was shown, like, a true picture of love, maybe for the first time in her life. I bet her life was a pretty rough one. And so what happens when she finally realizes this? What happens when she finally understands who this man is and the love that he's offering her? She sprints down to Sicar and she starts yelling, you guys have to hear about this person. I think it could be the Messiah. I think it could be this person that we've heard about. He literally told me everything I had done in my life. You have to come find, you have to come see this person, hear from this person yourself. When Christ changes our hearts, when our value is in him, we care far less about what the culture would have us do, what our culture would have us do. We care a lot less about how other people see success. We care a lot less about how other people think we should parent, how other people think we should be as a friend, about what we should be concerned about, what we couldn't. This woman was completely isolated. She wasn't allowed to interact with any of these people. But when you realize and when you fully allow your heart to understand, realize, and be overwhelmed by the love of Christ, there's no way that it doesn't change the way that you live, the things that you talk about. And can I tell you that in such a cynical and fallen world, someone who's completely joyful, you can tell it on them. Someone who has a worth and has value that doesn't go away based on their current circumstance, people see it. And so they heard that and they saw this woman. I think they probably cared less about the words that she said and more just the fact that something incredible just happened to this woman who I probably haven't made eye contact with in years because she's been trying to avoid it because she doesn't want to be seen with shame. I think they cared less about what she said. I think they cared more about the fact that she was so changed in her heart that she would go out in total love and look like a completely different person in her everyday life. May we be those people. May we experience this living water. May we experience having value that is eternal, complete soul satisfaction. And may it change who we are. May it change what we look like. And may it be like the end of this passage where these people, when they saw this woman, they had to go see for themselves. Jesus made a pit stop into a three-day stop because these people wanted to hear what he had to say because they saw what he had done for this girl. May we have people in our lives who have to come see what's going on here, have to go see what's going on in this person's heart, because man, there's just something different about it. Let's pray. God, thank you for your love. God, thank you for your son, for his sacrifice. God, thank you for the fact that you literally show and offer your love to every single one of us, regardless of our past, regardless of our present, that God, if we would come to you, you offer love. And God, allow us to realize that this love is the only thing in this life that we need. And so instead of worrying so much about our current lives and what's going on in our future and what our past was, God, that we're simply able to rest in the peace of your love and the assurance that that brings us. Man, God, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for sending your son to die for me for some reason. Thank you that you see me as a child of God, as a child of you. And God, I do just want to take a second to say thank you for whoever wrote this next song because man, they did a good job. We love you. Amen.
All right, well, good morning. My name is Nate. I am one of the pastors here. It's so good to see all of you. Thank you for being here. Like Michelle said, for part three of our series in John, as we've gone into the series, I've been trying to remind you and encourage you every week to grab one of the reading plans that's on the information table on your way out if you don't have one already. Those are also available online. I'm encouraging you to do that, to read along with us, because even if you come every week, if you don't miss a sermon or you catch up online, which by the way, if you're watching or listening online, thanks so much for doing that. But even if you don't miss a sermon through this whole series, it's going to take us to the week after Easter, you still, if you hear all of them, are only getting acquainted with Jesus through the book of John from my perspective. And that's not good for you. You need to read it on your own. Get your own perspective with Jesus. Get your own sense of what he's going through and how he's experiencing life and how you can learn from him before you come and I muck it up on Sundays. You are smart adults and you need to analyze that for yourself. So please be reading along with us as we go through the book of John. This morning we arrive at one of my favorite characters or figures in the Bible, a guy named John the Baptist, which just for the record so nobody has to feel silly, John the disciple, the disciple John wrote the book of John. John the Baptist is a different John. And in the book of John, we get more information about John the Baptist than any of the other three gospels, okay? So about John, I told you last week that Jesus says about John the Baptist that he's the greatest man ever born of a woman, which means he's the greatest man to ever live besides Jesus himself in Jesus's opinion. That's a big deal, which I think begs the immediate question, why would Jesus say that about John? What was it about John the Baptist that made him the greatest man to ever live? It's a question that I posed to you last week and invited you to go ahead and begin thinking about. I don't know if you spent any time thinking about it. I'm sure all the margins of your week were devoted to this singular question and you thought about nothing else. So thanks for being a good church partner and coming back ready. So I've got an answer that I want to propose to you this morning. And I will admit, this is my answer. It's my best guess on why Jesus thought John the Baptist was the greatest man to ever live. It's very likely a layered answer. It's entirely possible I could get to heaven one day and Jesus would go, Nate, why have you been teaching John the Baptist that way your whole life, man? Like you messed it up. But I hope not, and I think that we're on the right track with what we're going to look at today. To understand the greatness of John, I think we need to understand and recognize one of the most sneaky and pernicious lies that we have in our culture. It's such a sneaky lie that I would be willing to bet that 100% of the room at different points in our lives has fallen into it. I would be willing to bet that a significant portion of the room is still somewhat ensnared in it. We see this lie. I can see it in my life. I can see exactly how it happened. I got a degree in pastoral ministries, and then I got married and was going to go to seminary, and then God kind of redirected my life and said, I want you to teach for a little while. So we were living in Columbia, South Carolina for the first year of our marriage. And then it became clear that I probably shouldn't be a pastor. The going thought was maybe I wasn't kind enough to be a pastor, which I'm so grateful that's changed. And don't laugh so hard, man. And so I thought, I need to pursue teaching. I like to communicate. Maybe I don't have, maybe I need some work there, whatever. I need to pursue teaching. And so I got a job back home outside of Atlanta teaching. And I was teaching high school Bible. And I was actually, I was helping coach football. And I wasn't expecting this career, but I'm in the middle of it. And I'm trying to figure out what's next, right? When you're in your career, you go, what's next? What am I going to do next? That's always the question. When I talk to my friends, I ask them like, hey, what do you do? All right, well, what's next for you? How's that going? What's the next thing? Like, what are you going to settle into? We're always thinking about what do we want our life to look like five and 10 years from now. So we're always planning for that. And so as I'm teaching Bible and coaching football, I'm trying to figure out what's next for me. And I became really good friends with the head football coach, a guy named Coach Robert McCready. He was a recon Marine in Vietnam, and he was a bad joker, man. He was a great dude, and I loved being friends with him. He called everybody baby. And he was convinced that I was supposed to be the next head football coach there at the school. He was making me the coordinator and giving me different opportunities. And he said, baby, I'm going to give this team to you one day, okay? But I didn't know if that was true. I certainly wanted it to be true. It looked fun. But I also thought I don't want to be looking around and having to call everybody boss for my entire career. So I actually went to UGA to pursue a master's in education. I started that at UGA. A lot of people don't know that about me, but I actually did because I thought, well, if this is my career, then this is what I'm going to pursue. And then God changed gears. I was at a coffee with my pastor one day, and my pastor said, I'm going to offer you a job. I don't know what it is, but don't sign your teacher contract. And he came back to me with the job. I was at that church for seven years, and then I was here. So that's the story. But what I see in my story is something that I think that is common to all of us. You go to high school, and people ask you, where are you going to go to college? You go to college, and people ask you, what are you going to do? And they start asking you, who are you going to marry, and what's your family going to look like? And what they're always asking you is, what's your life going to look like in five years? What do you want to be true of you in five to ten years? And so you just put your head down and you get to work and you start doing the thing, right? I had no intention in my life ever of being a head football coach or of being a school teacher or an administration. That was never a thought growing up, but I found myself in this career, and I thought, well, I need to take the next steps, right? Because when you get into your career and you start paying those bills, however they start getting paid, you get used to a standard of life. And you start looking around at the people that you grew up with, and you go, oh, their houses are bigger than mine. I need to get on it. Or you go, I have the biggest house. I've done well. Right? Or you look at your coworkers and you're looking at the things that they're getting and the kinds of cars that they're driving and you look at the people around you that you go to church with and you look at the standard of life that they have and the vacations that they take and the clothes that their kids wear and then as they get older, the types of cars that their kids drive and it's just this big big competition, and we put our heads down, and we make the money, and we do the thing, and we pursue the career, and we're providing for the family, right, as we achieve the next thing and the next thing and the next thing. And before you know it, we're 20, 30 years into our life, and we're never even sure if this is really what we wanted. I didn't even want to be a coach or an administrator, but I was going to take the steps to climb the ladder like I needed to because that's what you do, right? Or for others, for others, I was talking to my wife, Jen, about this this week and talking to her about this lie, this way that we just put our head down and we don't really think about anything else and we just begin building this life without ever really defining what we're looking for. I said, if you're going to believe this lie, what does it look like for you? Because she's never been really career driven. She's always wanted to be a wife and a mom and a homemaker. That's what she's always wanted to do. And so I asked her, what does it look like for you to fall into this? And she said, well, maybe it looks kind of like the Pinterest-y or the Instagram life to this desire to have this perfect home where every room in your home is postable, right? Where like, it's got, you have to have white and there has to be light flooding in and there has to be some color and gray somewhere. And then you take a picture of it and then you like, it's blessed. And then that's good, right? Like that's, that's, that's the life that we want. Like that's everywhere. And if we don't watch it, we get caught up in, I just want that house that will be good in the picture. I want the family that looks good in the picture. And so we pour our lives into building that. I've seen other people back off of career and invest in family. I've seen people deprioritize careers so that they can have opportunities to volunteer and cast a big net and have respect in the community and influence in the community. And listen, none of these things are inherently bad. It is not bad to be ambitious and build a career. It is not bad to love family and build a home that is a retreat. It is not bad to pull back from those things and exert your influence in other places. None of those things are inherently bad. But here's the lie, and here's what happens. As I think about this way that we go through life, where without even thinking, we just jump right in, and we start building this thing. Here's what I want us to realize this morning. We are all building our own kingdoms. All of us here in this room are kingdom builders. We're all kingdom builders. And all of us, to one degree or another, entirely or in part, are building our own kingdoms, right? We are kings and queens of our little quarter-acre lot, of our very own fiefdom. And this is the thing. It's that old phrase, right? Get all you can, can all you get, and sit on your can. That's what we do. That's what we're trying. We just build up as much as we can, and then we protect it from everybody else. And it's our kingdom. And now the family that I projected out 10 years from now, I have it, and it's perfect, and it's what I wanted. The career that I projected out, I have it, and it's what I wanted. And so we go through life, we work as hard as we can, we wake up in the morning thinking about it and we build our kingdom because all of us are kingdom builders. And this, when you think about it, is really the American dream. The American dream says everybody gets a kingdom. Everybody gets a kingdom. When this phrase was coined in the early 1900s or thereabouts, this idea of the American dream, there were places where you could grow up across the world and you never had a hope of building your own kingdom. You only ever had the option to build someone else's kingdom. But if you could get to America, the land of opportunity, now you can build your own kingdom. And so what we've done with our culture is we've produced generation after generation of kingdom builders. And we're all building our own kingdom, and we very rarely stop to think about whose kingdom we're building and why we're building it. And this, I think, is what helps us understand the greatness of John. Because John was a kingdom builder too. John the Baptist built a really respectable, successful kingdom. To understand John's kingdom, we should really understand a little bit more about the Jewish educational system. I'm going to try to not bore you with this. This stuff is fascinating to me. Hopefully it's interesting to you. If you were a little kid born at the time of Christ, then you would start elementary school at about five years old. And from five to 10, everybody went to elementary school. And you studied the first five books of the Bible, the Torah, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. And during those five years, your goal was to memorize the first five books of the Bible by the age of 10. I'm not making that up. That's Jewish tradition tells us that that's what they did. And so if you made it to the end and you were a good student and you learned it and you showed some aptitude and you knew your Torah, then at the age of 10 or 11, really, you would graduate to a middle school called Beth Medrash. And you would go to that. And then what would happen is if you were a female, then you would learn, you would focus Deuteronomy and Psalms and you would be the worship leader in your home and in the synagogues. If you were a dude, then you would focus on the rest of the Old Testament being taught to you by a rabbi or a teacher in the synagogue. If at any point in this process you weren't keeping up with your studies, you weren't doing very well, you kind of flushed out or you couldn't memorize or it was just hard for you or whatever it was, then they would say, that's great, that's no problem, go home and learn a trade and be godly doing that. But if you can stick with it, stick with it. Then at the age of 13, you would take a break. And you would go home, and you would continue your studies privately while you learned the family trade, right? This is why we say that Jesus was a carpenter, because his dad was a carpenter, and you learned his family trade. Except for that carpenter thing is sneaky, because the Greek word there is tekton, which could mean carpenter, and it could also mean stonemason. And since Nazareth is surrounded by three stone quarries and no trees, it's very likely that Jesus was a mason and not a carpenter. So some of you need a new bumper sticker. But you would go home and you would learn the family trade, right? You would learn to do what your dad did, and then you would continue in your studies. And then around the age of 15, if you really thought you had potential, if you really thought you had what it took, then you would go and you would find a rabbi. A rabbi is just a Jewish word for teacher. You would go and you would find a rabbi, and you would go to him and you would say, can I follow you? Can I follow you? And what you're saying when you're asking the rabbi, can I follow you? What you're saying is, can I be who you are? The rabbi was somebody who had what we would call a successful ministry, whether that's a church or speaking ministry or whatever you want to parallel it to. Now, a rabbi had a successful ministry and was respected as what we would think of as a Christian leader or a religious leader in the community. And so you're going to him and you're going, can I become who you are? Do you think I have what it takes? Can I follow you? And the rabbis would have different answers for this. Sometimes they would say, well, tell you what, follow me for a couple of weeks and we'll see how it goes and then we'll talk about it. Others would quiz them. I've heard as an example, somebody would go, okay, Amos quotes the book of Deuteronomy seven times. What are the quotes, and what do they mean? And you'd have to know your stuff, right? And if you had what it took, if the rabbi saw something in you, then he would say, yeah, you can follow me. And that began the most intense internship program the world has ever known, probably. And from ages 15 to about 30, you followed this rabbi. You followed him every day. You listened to the way that he prayed. You listened to what he taught. You watched how he interacted with other people. You asked him questions. You learned the Bible from him. You continued to try to learn the Old Testament, what they called the Tanakh. And the goal was, by the time you were 30, to have the whole thing memorized. That's what you had to do to be a rabbi. And so they were learning from this person day in and day out, learning ministry and learning how to love on other people. It was an intense internship program. And then, towards the end of this program, if at any point in that program you just weren't keeping up with everybody else, because rabbis would have like eight to 12 disciples, give or take, if at any point you weren't keeping up with the other disciples, they would come to you and they would go, okay, listen, you're a godly young man and I love you, but you're not able to do this anymore. Go be a godly fisherman. Go be a godly carpenter. Go be a godly mason. And you would go and you would do that. But if you were able to hang with it and continue to show aptitude and propensity, then by the age of 30, what happened is the community around them began to call them rabbi, refer to them as rabbi. The more they taught, the more they were respected, and the community would begin to refer to them as rabbi. It kind of works like an old school pastor, like back in the 80s and 90s when you got hired at a church and you were a pastor. Everybody called you pastor, but at some point or another, they actually start to mean it, right? And you're their pastor. It worked the same way with the rabbi. Eventually, in that community, you became that rabbi. And then, once you became a rabbi, only ones that were in the upper echelon of all of the community of rabbis were the ones that were able to have disciples. So I want you to understand that to be a rabbi that could have a disciple, first of all, to be a rabbi at all is our equivalent of going to like an Ivy League school. To be a rabbi at all, this is the cream of the crop, all right? These are Harvard and MIT and Yale graduates. This is as smart as it gets. This is as sharp as it gets. And then to rise above the rest of those to become a rabbi where you could actually have disciples is the upper crust. And so when we meet John the Baptist, what does he have? Disciples. What does that tell us about John the Baptist? He was a sharp dude. We know other things about John the Baptist. He lived in the wilderness. He wore camel fur and he ate locusts covered in honey, so he's kind of a nut job. But he was like an eccentric professor, right? But he was super smart and he was really accomplished. And by every measure, John the Baptist was successful, wildly successful, and wildly respected. He even had a divine appointment. About him, there were prophecies that John the Baptist would be the voice crying out in the wilderness, paving the way for the Messiah. God gave him a divine role to be in Israel at the time of Christ, getting the rest of the nation of Israel ready for the arrival of the Messiah. He was the voice crying out in the wilderness, and by all accounts, wildly successful. When we meet him, he's baptizing in the Jordan River, and it says throngs of people are going out to meet him. He had a following. He had, he was the closest thing ancient Israel had to a megachurch pastor. He had this big following. He was the upper echelon of the religious community. Everybody was listening to him. Everybody was paying attention to what he said. He had the eyes of the nation of Israel on him. If he were around today to make a crude comparison, he would be one of these megachurch pastors talking to thousands of people at once with broadcasts at a bunch of different campuses. By all stretch, by any measure, John the Baptist was a wild success. And then this thing happened, and Jesus shows up. And when Jesus shows up, people begin leaving John's ministry and going to Jesus's ministry. And his disciples come to him one day, and they go, hey, people who are following you are now going and following Jesus. What do you want to do about that? They're telling him, hey, your kingdom's falling apart. This thing that you've been building, this thing that you've devoted your whole life to, he studied until he was 30 for the right to do this. He's devoted his entire life to do it. And then he launched it and it turns out he's good at it and it's successful. And he has tons of people following him. And make no mistake about it, John the Baptist was a man. He was a dude with an ego. And it would be incredibly tempting to look at those things and say, look at what I've done. You cannot tell me that he didn't derive a sense of his identity from what he had done and from what he had accomplished. You can't tell me that he didn't derive who he was from those things, right? In the same way that when we build our kingdoms, we derive our sense of identity from those. We derive our sense of value and worth from the things that we've built in our life. And so from the outside in, his worth and his sense of self had to be wrapped up in the things that he had accomplished, which were by all measures successful. And then his disciples come and they say, hey, someone's messing with your kingdom, man. Jesus is taking your followers and he's building his own kingdom. Yours is starting to fall apart. What do you want to do about that? And every person in history says what they want to do about that is take measures to protect their kingdom, right? But John's answer to that question, to me, shows us his greatness. In John chapter 3, on the screen we're going to start in verse 29, but I'm going to start reading from verse 27. We see John's response to his disciples who are saying, hey, your kingdom is falling apart. What do you want to do about it? And John says answer. His disciples say, hey, Jesus is taking your followers, man. He's diminishing your kingdom and he's growing his kingdom. What do you want to do about that? And he says, guys, do you not understand? Jesus is the groom. I'm the best man. On the wedding day, when the groom shows up, the best man doesn't stand there and get jealous that the groom's getting all the attention. He stands there and is the head cheerleader for the groom and everything that's happening for him. I am not the point here, guys. This is not what I wanted. This is the right thing. They need to go to him. He is the groom, and everybody is right to go follow him. In fact, what are you two still doing here? Go be with Jesus. My job has come. I've accomplished my task. He says, Jesus must increase and I must decrease. They said, he's taking your kingdom and he's making his kingdom bigger. And he says, yeah, his kingdom needs to get bigger and my kingdom needs to get smaller. And what he's telling his disciples there is, I think what makes him great. I have always been building Jesus's kingdom. I have always been building Jesus's kingdom. It was never my own. These were never my followers. These were never my people. It was never my education. It's never been my ministry. It has always, only, ever been Jesus's. And now that he's here, of course I'm going to give him what's his. I've been rallying these people for him. The whole point is for him to increase and me to decrease. The point is not for me to keep getting bigger. The point is not for me to continue to grow my kingdom. The whole point of this whole exercise has been to build his kingdom. Every verse he ever memorized, every person he ever spoke to, everybody he ever loved on, everyone he was ever patient with, every evening he spent in prayer, every morning he got early, those were all to build Jesus' kingdom, not his own kingdom. And I think John, in history, uniquely understood what it was to be a kingdom builder who was all about the business of building the kingdom of Jesus and not his own. And that's what made him great. And so that brings us to an obvious question for you. Whose kingdom are you building? Are you building God's kingdom? Are you building your own kingdom? Whose kingdom are you building? And I know that's a hard question. I know that's a tough question. It feels like an unfair question. Because the answer is, of course, of course we're all building our own kingdoms in some way. And if we've never thought about it before, and we've never opened our eyes to this lie that we just jump into life and begin to build things for a reason that we don't understand, if we've never drawn ourselves back from it and gone, wait, what exactly am I doing here? Then this is a really difficult question, but I would submit that either in part or in whole, all of us are building our own kingdom to some degree. I would ask you, whose kingdom are you building? Even as I ask this question of myself, just to be completely transparent with you and not be the pastor that's just making people feel bad. If you were to ask me, why are you working hard to build grace? Is the answer because I love you and I love the people that you bring here and I care for the souls that are represented in this room every Sunday morning and I love God and I want desperately for those souls to be knit with God so that everybody who walks in here can experience the peace that it is to walk with God and see families strengthened and kids grow up in those families and go out and be kingdom builders. Is that what motivates me? Yeah, absolutely that's what motivates me. But is there a chance that why I work so hard to build this kingdom is because I want to get to the age of 45 or 50 and go, look what I did? Yeah. Of course there is. Of course there is. And I'll be honest with you. I don't know how to suss out those motives. I don't know how to stand up here with a pure heart and be like, I'm doing all of this for God and none of this for Nate. I pray against it every day. The problem is I have an enormous ego, so I really pray hard. Your motives are mixed too. But I would ask you to press into that question. Listen, this is a successful room. Successful folks in this room. Smart people in this church. The things that you have accomplished, who have you accomplished them for? From this point on, as you continue to build, who are you building for? And so as we confront that question, we have to ask, what does it look like to build God's kingdom? What would it look like for me at 20 or at 30 or at 50 or 60 or 70 to make the decision, now, more than ever, I'm going to try to build God's kingdom. What does it look like to build God's kingdom? And just so we know, as we answer the question, whose kingdom are you building? Are you building God's or are you building your own? Jesus tells us in Matthew, don't store up for yourselves treasures in heaven where moth and rust destroy and thieves break in and steal, but store up for yourself treasures in heaven where moth and rust do not destroy and thieves do not break in and steal. Don't invest your life in temporary things that are going away. Stephen, the worship before I ever got up here was talking about the temporary nature of this life and that what lasts for eternity are the souls of others, is the kingdom of God. And so do we want to invest our life in the things that matter for eternity or the things that only matter right now and even then not really? And let's be reminded that there's only one kingdom. There's only one kingdom that brings us a peace that passes understanding. There's only one kingdom that enables us to walk in joy. There's only one kingdom that says to death, where is your sting? There's only one kingdom that takes the tragedy out of funerals. There's only one kingdom that gives us a hope for eternity. There's only one kingdom worth dying for. Which one do you want to build? Yours or his? If we want to build his, what does that look like? Well, when John was building it, to me, it looked like holding things with an open hand. We're going to work hard. We're going to build things. We're going to build with our life. But the things we build, we hold with an open hand. And we say, these things were never mine. When Jesus comes to John and he starts taking followers from John, he says, I need these people now. They're going to be a part of my kingdom. Did John hold on to them and resent it? Or did he go, yeah, they were yours all along. They were never mine. He held them with an open hand. And so to build God's kingdom doesn't look like stopping our ambition. We'd be as ambitious and as smart and as hungry as we possibly can. But as we build those things, the things that we accrue, we hold with an open hand. And when Jesus says, I need that, we say, that was yours to begin with. It can look like the switch that happened in my dad's heart. And I'm going to brag about my dad now. He'll listen to this online and feel good and make him look really good. But I could also do plenty of sermons that would make him feel bad. So let's just be honest about that. But when he graduated college, he went and he got a job as a CPA. And he was a really driven guy. And his goal before he was 30 was to be a millionaire, which is a bigger deal in the late 70s than it is now. But he said, I want to be a millionaire. And that's what drove him, right? But somewhere in his 30s, God got a hold of his heart. And his thinking changed. And he said, I no longer want to be a millionaire by the time I'm 30. I want to give away a million dollars before I turn 40. I want to be a conduit of God's generosity. And then he made partner. And there's been some other iterations, but he owns his own firm now, and that firm is a conduit to God's generosity. They do for free the finances for several nonprofits. Dad's probably going to be mad at me for saying this, but they have a couple pastors on their payroll that he's simply supporting because he doesn't want them to not have options later in life. He sat on the boards for some missions boards and launched missions organizations and helps people all over the world with what they're doing. He is a conduit. His company is a conduit of God's generosity because something switched in him and he realized this isn't for me. This is for God. So here's my company. I'm going to work as hard as I can at it. Take what you need. He's open-handed with it. To be open-handed as a church. I think about this. I think I made him uncomfortable the first service. I'll do it two times in a row. Kyle, I've known Kyle, our student pastor, for a couple of years now, three, four years. I think he has the integrity and the gifts and the ability and the hunger and the unique makeup to do big things in God's kingdom. I think he's going to have great opportunities in his career. It wouldn't shock me at all to see Kyle become a senior pastor one day and go on to bigger and better from this. Not one little bit. And so while he's here, we're going to pour into him all we can. We're going to build him up and develop him. And I'm going to teach him everything I know, which is not much. It should take about the next six months. And we're going to do everything we can to get him ready for whatever the next opportunity is, understanding that it might not be in this place, and understanding that at some point or another, there's a very good chance that Jesus is going to go, I'm ready, I need him now over here. And we as a church are going to go, that's great, he was never ours. Even though he's going to leave a big void here, whenever this happens, we don't care because he's not ours and we want to see God's kingdom built wherever he goes. This is how we hold the people in our life as well. This is how we hold our time. I see people at the church. Y'all, we have one lady at the church who was a, she's been an elder for basically a vast majority of the existence of the church. She keeps up with the website. She's here early every Sunday morning. She works for a non-profit in her free time. If I email her at 11 o'clock at night, I will have an answer by six in the morning. She is on top of it. She does so much stuff for behind the scenes at this church that she has with her time and with her energy and with her talent said, here's an open hand, I want to build your kingdom. It can look like it at any place and at any time. So my question to you this morning is, whose kingdom are you building? Whose kingdom do you want to build? And what would it look like for you in your life to be wholly dedicated to building God's kingdom? And with that, what things are you holding with a closed hand that we're not allowing him to use? What things are you protecting that you haven't said, if you need it, God, it's yours? And then, what would happen here if we had a church full of kingdom builders? If everybody here quit being so concerned, and just like anybody else with their fiefdom and their kingdom and their quarter acre lot, if we quit being concerned with our kingdom and started getting concerned with God's kingdom, what kind of things would God do here with our collective efforts to build his kingdom in this place? We're about to sing a song about building a kingdom and there's a line in there that says, let the darkness fear. Let the enemy fear what will happen here if we determine within ourselves that we are going to be builders of God's kingdom and not our own. And look what can happen if a whole church will say yes to that. That's what I want grace to be. Let's pray. Father, you're so good to us. We acknowledge that you've gifted us in so many ways, God. Some of us are smart. Some of us are charming. Some of us are friendly. Some of us are hospitable. Some of us are funny. Some of us are servants, God. Each of us brings a different set of gifts to the table. And God, we acknowledge that they are your gifts and they are given to build your kingdom. And I pray that we would use those things that you've given us, not to build our own kingdom, God, but to build yours. Help us be more like your servant, John the Baptist. Help us to embrace what it means to decrease while you increase. God, give us the courage to be kingdom builders. Help us to identify, give us the discernment to see the things in our life that we hold too tightly and give us the courage to let go of those things. Let us, Father, live our lives for you, for eternity and for your kingdom. It's in your son's name we pray. Amen.